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Home My WebLink About02-01-1999 Workshop Meeting1 CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP MEETING CITY HALL ANNEX 111 Polk Avenue, Cape Canaveral, Florida MONDAY February 1, 1999 5:00 P.M. MINUTES Call to Order: Roll Call: Council Members Present Burt Bruns Richard Treverton Mayor Pro Tem Buzz Petsos Mayor Rocky Randels Discussion: Council Members Absent Tony Hernandez Others Present City Manager, Bennett Boucher City Attorney, Kohn Bennett Assistant City Clerk, Susan Stills Public Works Director, Ed Gardulski Water Reclamation Superintendent, Walter Bandish City Engineer, John Pekar Building Official, Dennis Franklin Code Enforcement, Greg Mullins <Tape 1, 35> Mayor Randels stated that the discussion would progress toward a decision from Council to identify a stormwater runoff problem and how Council would address this situation. Mr. Bruns expressed that not only is stormwater runoff a problem but also unfunded mandates at the Federal level that will need to be addressed at substantial cost. Mr. Gardulski opened his presentation and distributed handouts to the Council members. The presentation began with the Overview Summary. The next section included Florida's Stormwater Rules and the NPDES permitting program. Mr. Bruns queried about the acronym NPDES. Mr. Gardulski stated that this is the Non -Point Discharge Elimination System. Mr. Bruns asked for the meaning of non - point. Mr. Gardulski explained that this means no point source for runoff. Mr. Bruns asked about the City Council Meeting item that addresses injection of waste water into a deep -well system. Mayor Pro Tem Petsos clarified that this is a reverse osmosis system. Mr. Gardulski continued the presentation with the effective dates for stormwater regulations stating that the City would need to have a plan in progress between the years 2000 and 2007. He reviewed the problems that would be incurred and the current condition of the City's stormwater system. His research on the City's stormwater system located five identifiable outfalls. 1 City of Cape Canaveral, Florida City Council Workshop Meeting February 1, 1999 Page 2 At this time Mr. Gardulski reviewed each basin outfall, the size of pipe, the amount of silt in each pipe and the service area. Mr. Bruns queried about the direction of the Canaveral Creek. Mr. Gardulski stated that this creek begins in the Port area and flows south out to the Banana River. He noted that the creek is continuously feed by springs in the area. Mayor Randels asked for the origin of a creek in the northwest section on the overview map. Mr. Gardulski said that this might be obstructed by silt. Mr. Mullins stated that the County refers to this area as the Old Mosquito Ditch. Mr. Bruns questioned if there were free - flowing water in the pipes on the Central Avenue basin outfalls. Mr. Gardulski indicated approximately three feet of silt that form an obstruction in these pipes. Mayor Randels asked what distance could be removed without assistance from the Army Corps of Engineers. Mr. Gardulski stated that a permit was necessary after which he could remove 25 yards of fill. Mr. Bruns asked if a vacuum and transfer project were possible. Mr. Gardulski stated that that method would require a different permit. He also stated that further engineering investigation was needed to ascertain the condition of the pipes. Mr. Gardulski explained what is needed for a serviceable stormwater runoff plan. He reviewed the needs of evaluating the stormwater system, establishing goals and objectives, developing an annual budget, submitting NPDES reports, and encouraging public awareness and involvement. Mr. Bruns asked when the first NPDES report is due. Mr. Gardulski responded sometime in March. Mr. Petsos stated that perhaps having the draft regulations would provide data for the legislative delegation. Mr. Gardulski reported an anticipated annual cost of $500,000. Mr. Treverton asked if current maintenance is being done on the system. Mr. Gardulski explained that debris is removed from inlets and manholes are also periodically checked for debris. Mr. Gardulski permitted Mr. John Pekar, of Stottler, Stagg and Associates, to explain the Capital Projects portion of the presentation. Mr. Pekar opened discussion on the non -point sources that run into the Indian River Lagoon for a broader perspective of the stormwater management. He related that Marty Smithson, who is coordinating the Indian River Lagoon program, showed him a visual of the pollution acceleration curve. Mr. Pekar explained that a stormwater plan is a report that contains data collection for the area, existing conditions, an analysis of those conditions, and an analysis of those conditions that identifies capital projects. He referenced two previous plans done for North Brevard, Titusville to the County Line, and east Port St. John. He stated that a plan sets forth the basis of a stormwater utility and is significant in acquiring grant funds. Mr. Pekar emphasized that public awareness also plays an important role by involving the public in the stormwater management process. He stated that the newly established Total Maximum Daily Load (TMDL) program establishes ratios for pollution control before new construction permits are issued. Mr. Gardulski continued the presentation and noted that stormwater management will encompass other City departments. Mayor Randels queried about enforceable laws on discharge from private residents. Mr. Gardulski explained that the City could establish a designated fee and an annual inspection would ascertain resident compliance. Mr. j City of Cape Canaveral, Florida City Council Workshop Meeting February 1, 1999 g Page 3 Gardulski then reviewed possible funding programs. Mayor Randels related that through meeting with Mr. Chris Bailey of Cape Canaveral Hospital, he learned that mitigation funds are available to the City. Mayor Randels emphasized that if the City put a plan in place, these funds are available. Mr. Gardulski addressed stormwater utility fees and their purpose in the management program. Mr. Bruns asked for clarification on the basis of the fees. Mr. Gardulski explained that the fees are based per unit of measurement. Mr. Gardulski concluded his presentation with the importance of public awareness in the management program. Mayor Randels posed the options to Council of administering the stormwater program or allowing the County to provide administration functions. Mr. Pekar noted that soliciting information from residents along the water is important to the program, and with this in mind the City might need to administer its own program. Mr. Bruns queried if stormwater management affected cities that discharged in local bodies of water, or if the mandate is on a national level. Mr. Pekar explained that some cities will I be affected to a lesser degree, but all cities will be affected. I 4 Mr. Treverton asked about the price of an engineering study. Mr. Gardulski stated that Stonier, Stagg needs to submit a proposal. Mr. Pekar reported the price for the 400-acre study at approximately $40,000. He recounted from the previous studies that public education and awareness helped to provide input that resulted in needed data. Mr. Mullins asked how this would be retrofit to existing properties?Mr. Pekar answered that by establishing a stormwater utility, the County gives a credit for repairing problems. Mr. Gardulski noted that a study would provide a basis for rates. Mr. Boucher related that questions from previous years would also help to resolve the issue of rates, as well as, + retaining a experienced firm to perform the study. Mayor Randels stated that the City Stormwater Mater Plan was done noting that it would contain needed background information. Mr. Pekar acknowledged that he had a copy of the plan. Mr. Bruns queried about the time frant. Mr. Pekar responded that the time depends on the current database and amount of time for public involvement. He answered approximately ten months. Council concluded the meeting with the action to develop a stormwater 1 management plan that would improve the quality of the Banana River. 1 Thete being'nn further business the meeting adjourned at 6:33 P.M. i 1 f ¢ i • Susan tills, s*stant City Clerk 1 1 (11 :i a `\ ' �... 1 A [ a i 1 3 1