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MEETING MINUTES
OCTOBER 22, 2008
A Regular Meeting of the Planning & Zoning Board was held on October 22,
2008, at the City Hall Annex, 111 Polk Avenue, Cape Canaveral, Florida.
Chairperson Bea McNeely called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. The Secretary
called the roll.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Bea McNeely
Lamar Russell
John Fredrickson
Donald Dunn
Harry Pearson
John Johanson
Ronald Friedman
OTHERS PRESENT
Chairperson
Vice Chairperson
1 st Alternate
2nd Alternate
Kate Latorre Assistant City Attorney
Susan Chapman Board Secretary
Barry Brown Planning & Development Director
NEW BUSINESS
1. Approval of Meeting Minutes: September 24 2008.
Chairperson McNeely announced that the draft meeting minutes were revised.
The Board members reviewed the revision.
Motion by Harry Pearson, seconded by Bea McNeely, to approve the meeting
minutes of September 24, 2008, with the noted change. Vote on the motion
carried unanimously.
2. Recommendation to Board of Adjustment Re: Special Exception Request
No. 08-08 to Construct a Single Family Residence in the C-1 Zoning
District, Section 14, Township 24 South., ..Range 37 East,. Lot A.02, oak
Lane - Bernard M. Lennon, Petitioner.
Barry Brown, Planning & Development Director, advised that this request was a
Special Exception to allow for a single family residence in the C-1 zoning district;
the property was located on oak Lane; the parcel was just under one acre; and
currently vacant; property to the north was multi -family, west and south vacant,
and to the east was a single family residence; the surrounding area was
predominately residential; the request for residential use is with keeping in nature
with the surrounding area. He advised that the only concern staff had was the
Oak Street right-of-way.
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October 22, 2008
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He explained that the right-of-way was currently unimproved. Evidentially, over
the years they have been dumping asphalt millings to build the roadway up. In
the short-term, the existing roadway should be acceptable for Mr. Lennon's
request. He noted that in the near future there may be another request for a
single family across the street from Mr. Lennon's property. He advised that at
some point, oak Lane would need to be constructed to City standards; according
to Public Works there was currently a 50 ft. wide right of way; if Mr. Haynes
approaches the City again to construct a townhome development that will been a
good time to bring the road up to City standards; on the south side of oak Lane,
there were several single family lots that at one time were replatted into
townhome lots, but the project did not proceed and the preliminary plat expired; if
the property owner decides to develop the property into townhome lots, that may
also be the time that the City would decide to require oak Lane to be brought up
to City standards; Mr. Lennon was happy to use the roadway as it existed; water
and sewer were available; and therefore, staff recommended approval of the
Special Exception request.
Dr. John Fredrickson questioned that at the recent workshops with City Council,
at least two of the City Council members, and two or three members of the
Planning & Zoning Board, swore off accepting special exceptions. He
questioned why the City was still accepting applications. Barry Brown responded
that an ordinance was passed that ended Special Exceptions, for residential use,
in the C-1 zoning district, only on the properties along Al A. He advised that Mr.
Lennon's property was not affected by that ordinance. Kate Latorre, Assistant
City Attorney, verified that Mr. Lennon's request was valid.
Ron Friedman referred to page #G of the Board packet. He noted that what was
referenced as oak Lane, did not extend all the way to N. Atlantic Avenue. There
was another parcel (Part of Parcel B and part of Parcel A.07) that would have
normally been the right of way or the road. He questioned if oak Lane was an
official City road? And if Parcel B and A.07 were owned by two other people,
then Mr. Lennon's lot was a landlocked piece of property, without legal access to
the road. He questioned if the City wanted to have that traveled way upgraded to
a City street, who would pay for it? Barry Brown responded that he spoke with
Public Works and was informed that there was a 50 ft. right of way but, it did
appear that it did not extend all the way to N. Atlantic Avenue. He would
research the City records to verify if the City has some type of agreement across
those properties. He advised that Circle K and LaCantina Restaurant may have
been required to dedicate right of way, at some point, that may not be reflected
on the parcel maps. Ron Friedman pointed out that even though tax maps are
informative; they were not legal in terms of property lines. He recommended that
if the Board recommends approving the Special Exception request that the
approval be contingent upon the City Attorney confirming that there was an
existing legal right of way owned by the City to the property.
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October 22, 2008
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Motion by Harry Pearson, seconded by Donald Dunn, to recommend approval of
Special Exception Request No. 08-00, contingent upon verification that there was
an existing legal right of way that was owned by the City to the property. The
Board held discussion regarding the motion. Donald Dunn thought that the
motion was to only add the condition, not for recommendation of the Special
Exception. Barry Brown advised that he checked with Public Works and verified
that oak Lane was a City right of way, but he could not confirm that the right of
way extended to N. Atlantic Avenue. Discussion continued. For clarification,
Assistant City Attorney, Kate Latorre, repeated the motion. Harry Pearson
verified that the motion, as stated, was correct. Chairperson McNeely asked for
a second to the motion. There being none the motion died. Discussion
continued. Kate Latorre researched the County's web site to see if she could
verify the right of way, but was unsuccessful in doing so. Harry Pearson agreed
to withdraw his motion. Donald Dunn withdrew his second to the motion.
Chairperson McNeely announced that the motion was withdrawn.
Donald Dunn questioned if there was any special stormwater runoff, which he
believed there was, because the road was not paved. Barry Brown responded
that at the time Mr. Lennon submitted his site plan he would need to deal with the
drainage, however there was right of way for stormwater to flow in too. John
Johanson advised that Mr. Lennon was responsible for his stormwater retention.
Donald Dunn voiced his opinion that, because there were no curbs or sidewalks,
and the street was not paved, it was not safe. Barry Brown responded that at
some point when there was more development along that road, that could be a
concern, but right now there were no pedestrian issues. He explained that there
were no residences west of Mr. Lennon's proposed residence. Donald Dunn
stated that he still had a problem with it. John Johanson pointed out that Harbor
Heights only had one sidewalk and that was a developed subdivision.
The Board members reviewed the Special Exception application checklist. Mr.
Lennon verified that he had answered the questions on the application checklist.
Discussion was held regarding storm water runoff; traffic flow and control;
compatibility of surrounding uses; verification that Oak Lane was a public road;
verification of availability for water and sewer; refuse service disposal;
surrounding zoning; and uses.
Bernard Lennon, Petitioner, testified that approximately eight years ago, his title
company held up his title, because they had the same concern, as the Board,
regarding the right of way. His title company had contacted the city attorney, at
that time. After the city attorney researched the issue, he verified that the City
owned the right of way. He noted that the entrance of oak Lane had a city street
sign; and for a distance of approximately 100 feet, the entrance to oak Lane
appeared to be built to city standards. He advised that he purchased the
property in 1999.
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October 22, 2008
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Donald Dunn questioned at what point the road would be paved. Barry Brown
responded that probably at the time a property owner requested replatting a
property into townhouse lots, or perhaps a condominium development. He
advised that the City did not have a specific code that stated when a road was
required to be brought up to city specifications. He added that the City did not
have any funds available to pave the road.
Motion by Donald Dunn, seconded by Dr. John Fredrickson, to recommend
approval of Special Exception Request No. 08-06, contingent upon the condition
that the city verify access to N. Atlantic Avenue. Vote on the motion carried
unanimously.
3. Recommendation to City council Re: Section 110-171(a)L21.- Changing
the Requirements for a Restaurant to^ Serve_ liguor from a Minimum
Seating of _200._ to 150 Persons - Brigitte Krause, owner of _Izzy-'s Bistro,
Applicant.
Barry Brown, Planning & Development Director, advised that this was a request
to amend the City code for the amount of seating that's required for a restaurant
to have a liquor license. This would change the minimum amount of seats to 150
seats. He explained that the city code currently read that the required
separation be 2,000 feet between establishments that were licensed by the State
for on -premise consumption of alcoholic beverages, with the exception of
restaurants seating 200 or more persons. The Florida Statutes only require a
restaurant to have only 150 seats in order to serve liquor. He noted that this was
a request to bring the City code in line with the Florida Statute on the minimum
number of seats required. He explained in comparing the Florida Statutes with
the City code, the Florida Statute addressed the number of liquor licenses that
could be handed -out in a county, and the City code addressed a distance
requirement.
Kate Latorre, Assistant city Attorney, explained that Florida Statute, 551.20,
regulated the number of licenses that the State will issue for serving alcoholic
beverages, and it was based on the county population. one of the exceptions
that the Florida Statute provided was an establishment with a minimum of 2,500
sq. ft. and could serve 150 people at the same time. She explained that the city
code was a distance requirement that limited two establishments within 2,000
feet of each other from receiving an alcoholic beverage license. The City code
exception from that requirement was if a restaurant could seat 200 persons. She
advised that the applicant's request was to reduce the number of required seats
to 150 seats, in order to be exempt from the 2,000 feet distance requirement.
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Meeting Minutes
October 22, 2008
Page 5
Lamar Russell gave a brief history of when the original City code was written. He
explained that the original code was written back in the Apollo times, when there
was a bar or nightclub at almost every corner, from the Port to the split at Patrick
Air Force Base. After that time, the City changed the code to impose a distance
requirement between like establishments that sold alcoholic beverages, in an
effort to cleanup the town. Later, the code was updated to add an exception from
the distance requirement, which was for restaurants that had a minimum of 200
seats, (which seemed reasonable at the time, because of average restaurant
sizes). He voiced his opinion that he did not have a problem with reducing that
number to 150 seats. Discussion followed regarding restaurants with indoor and
outdoor seating. John Johanson advised that if they were trying to upgrade the
City right now, the City could bring in some nice restaurants, and a liquor license
may help do that. And, changing the code may help with mixed-use as well. He
stated that the way that the economy is right now, these restaurants need all the
help they can get. He voiced his opinion that changing the code was a good idea
for existing restaurants and for the City's future restaurants. Barry Brown noted
that lzzy's Bistro was only licensed by the State for 75 persons, and if they were
going to increase their seating, then that would bring in the parking issue. So if
the code is changed, it does not necessarily make it work for Izzy's. However,
there may be other restaurants throughout the city where the code change could
apply.
Chairperson McNeely questioned if establishments outside the City boundaries
had anything to do with the 2,000 feet requirement? Kate Latorre answered that
the measurements includes any establishment within 2,000 feet, whether inside
or outside the city boundaries.
Harry Pearson referred to page 22 of the Board packet, which stated that the
Florida statute was amended. He asked when and what was amended? He
advised that no such amendment had taken place; in June of 2006, was when
Section 110-171 (a)(2) was established into an ordinance. He did not believe that
the State law had changed since that time.
Discussion was held regarding minimum service area. Lamar Russell advised
that the code did not address a minimum service area. Donald Dunn commented
that maybe they should consider establishing one. Lamar Russell gave a history
on that. He explained that if a restaurant had seating for 200 people that would
pretty well define space for a service area, so the City left that open to the
creativity of the restaurants. Discussion continued.
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October 2, 2008
Page 5
Dr. John Fredrickson voiced his opinion that he did not have a problem with
reducing the required number of seats, but he did not know how the code change
would help Izzy's Restaurant. He advised that Izzy's currently had 75 seats, and
there was no way they could increase the seating another 75 seats with the room
they had or have enough parking to accommodate another 75 seats.
Ron Friedman noted that non -chain restaurants have one of the highest failure
rates in the Country; and selling alcoholic beverages is a good part of any profit
that they may have, by lowering the seating requirement from 200 to 150 seats,
regardless of what Izzy's may have, may be enough to attract another
independent restaurant that would only want to have 150 seats. He voiced his
opinion that the reduction of 100 or 150 seats could be good to attract non -chain,
non -fast food restaurants into the city. Discussion followed. Kate Latorre
explained that the Board would be making a recommendation to the City Council.
Motion by Dr. John Fredrickson, seconded by Lamar Russell to recommend to
City Council that the request to change Section 110-171 (a)(2) be granted to
reduce the minimum number of required seats from Zoo to 150 for a restaurant to
serve liquor to be exempt from the 2,000 ft. distance requirement. Discussion
followed.
Brigitte Krause, applicant, stated her name and address for the record. Donald
Dunn questioned why she brought this request if it did not apply to her. She
responded that, because it was not fair with the business relationship in the City
compared to cocoa Beach, where she has owned Gregory's Steak and Seafood
Grille for 15 years and has had no problem with serving liquor at all, because
most people usually just have an after dinner drink, or a glass of wine or martini.
She explained that most of the time, patrons don't want to dine at a place that
they only have a choice of beer and wine to drink with dinner. Gary Kirkland,
helping Ms. Krause with this matter, advised that the 75 seats that Izzy's had now
was only a carry-over from the previous restaurant which was called Mangroves.
Since it was taken over, the inside of the restaurant was remodeled. He advised
that the booths and the stage that were taken a lot of space were removed. They
understood that this was only an ordinance change and that a Special Exception
was still required, they would apply for the Special Exception and business
license for 150 seats, if the code is changed. They also understood that there
would be permits required and additional sewer impact fees.
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Meeting Minutes
October 22, 2008
Page 7
Mr. Kirkland advised that they already tried to make application for a Special
Exception, but were told that they were within 2,000 feet of Charlotte's Web.
They currently had a 2COP license, which was for beer and wine consumption,
and wanted to upgrade that to a 4COP license under the State Statute. He noted
that the State required 51 % of sales to be for food consumption for a restaurant
with a 4COP license, so the restaurant could never be turned into a bar.
Currently, the restaurant sales were 80% from food and 20% from beer and wine.
The restaurant was approximately 2,900 sq. feet, which exceeded the State
requirement of 2,500 sq. feet. Mr. Kirkland stated that he was not able to locate
the date that the Florida Statute was revised, however the request was based on
the current Florida Statute.
Harry Pearson advised that his research revealed that the Statute was revised in
the year 2000. He noted that the City changed the ordinance about two years
ago, but could not recall what was changed, however 200 seats was the number
that was voted on. He suggested if they were going to look at changing the
code, they should look at the entire Section 110-171, instead of just picking -out
one little place and changing it. John Johanson questioned what other part of the
code he wanted to change? Harry Pearson voiced his opinion that paragraph
(a)(2) was not the only paragraph in Section 110-171, and that the entire section
should be reviewed. Kate Latorre advised that in 2006, the code Section was
thoroughly evaluated and was rewritten after several workshops and discussions.
Chairperson McNeely commented that there was nothing glaring in the code
section that needed to be changed. Dr. John Fredrickson commented that it was
not the applicant's responsibility to know what the City had done two years ago.
Irrespectively, the request to reduce the minimum number of seating from 200 to
150 was consistent with the State. Harry Pearson responded that the 150 seats
that the State required did not apply to the City. He explained that they were not
going to bring the code into compliance with the State law by changing the
seating to 150. Kate Latorre agreed that there were some similarities, but they
addressed different issues and were unrelated. She stated that the City was not
bound to 150 seats. Bea McNeely and John Johanson agreed that 150 seats
sounded reasonable.
Motion passed by a (4) to (1) majority in favor of the motion, with members voting
as follows: Donald Dunn, for; John Fredrickson, for; Bea McNeely, for; Harry
Pearson, opposed; and Lamar Russell, for.
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October 22, 2008
Page 8
OPEN DISCUSSION
Dr. John Fredrickson commended the Planning & Development Director for the
format of the Project Status Report he provided to the Board, which was readable
and easy to understand. Barry Brown gave an overview of the report, which
gave the status of current submitted applications for: rezonings, special
exceptions, comprehensive plan amendments, site plans, etc. He advised that at
the next meeting, he would have a list that showed different projects that staff
was working on, such as code amendments. He stated that every couple of
months he would provide a status update. Brief discussion followed regarding
various projects.
Barry Brown, Planning & Development Director, gave the Board members an
overview of his job duties. He also reported that he had received a phone call
from the Department of Community Affairs (DCA), who informed him that in
reviewing the Public School Facilities Element, the only comment they had was
the maps that the city submitted for proposed school facilities were outdated.
The reviewer informed him that if the City provided the most recent map that was
approved in Brevard County's submittal, by the end of the week, then DCA would
not review the City's element. He advised that the map was e-mailed to DCA this
morning. He noted that the City could not move forward with adopting any other
elements until the Public Schools Facilities Element was adopted. Discussion
followed.
John Johanson advised that he spoke to the Board approximately five months
ago about the accessory use definition in regards to the Porter project, and it had
never been further defined and should be. Barry Brown responded that it was on
his high priority list after the Capital Improvements Element; however he would
provide some framework to use for Board to discuss. John Johanson
commented that if the City prohibited drive -up doors and windows, it would
prevent more fast-food restaurants from coming into the City, in hopes to
generate nicer restaurants. He asked if the Board members had driven around
the city and identified any areas they did or didn't like as discussed at the
previous meeting. He commented that no one addresses the special exception
areas that people complain about; they don't step-up and talk about trying to
change the code to fix the problems. The Planning & Zoning Board should do
the homework for the city Council, but that has not happened or initiated. It had
always been direction from the City Council.
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Meeting Minutes
October 22, 2008
Page 9
Barry Brown announced that the City Council scheduled the next sign ordinance
workshop on Thursday, November 6th a@ 5:30 p.m., after certifying the election
results.
There being no further business the meeting was adjourned at 9:00 p.m.