HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes 04-04-2006 WorkshopCITY COUNCIL JOINT WORKSHOP
MEETING WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD
CITY HALL ANNEX
111 Polk Avenue, Cape Canaveral, Florida
TUESDAY
April 4, 2006
5:00 PM
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER
A joint meeting of the City of Cape Canaveral City Council and Planning & Zoning Board was held
on April 4, 2006 at 5:00 P.M. in the City Hall Annex, 111 Polk Avenue, Cape Canaveral, Florida.
The Assistant City Clerk called the roll.
ROLL CALL:
Council Members Present
Mayor Pro Tern
Council Member
Council Member
Mayor
Council Members Absent:
Council Member
Bob Hoog
Jim Morgan
Buzz Petsos
Rocky Randels
Leo Nicholas
Plannino and Zoning Board Members Present:
Chairperson
Vice Chair
Regular Member
Others Present
City Manager
Assistant City Attorney
Assistant City Clerk
City Planner
Building Official
DISCUSSION
Beatrice McNeely
Lamar Russell
Dr. John Fredrickson
Bennett Boucher
Kate Latorre
Virginia Haas
Todd Peetz
Todd Morley
1. City Code Review: Draft Ordinance Article V. Nonconformities.
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CHAPTER 110. ZONING
ARTICLE V. NONCONFORMITIES
Section 110 -191. Intent; rules of interpretation; building and fire codes; definitions.
Mayor Randels read the intent section. Mr. Morgan asked about continuation of lots
and brought forth the example of a 50 x 125 foot lot with a house located in a
commercial zone. The house is destroyed and now the owner wants to tear down the
structure and upgrade. What does this code tell us? Mr. Morley replied that part b in
the existing code, stated that the house could be replaced by a special permit of the city
council. Mr. Morgan replied that this section means that the sitting council could deny
the request. Attorney Garganese noted that 110 -196 on page 10 covers a single family
lot of record. Mr. Morgan asked if that section conflicts with the intent section. Mr.
Morgan stated that this code does not flow. Mr. Peetz explained existing duplexes
which aren't consistent with the draft code. Mr. Morgan questioned an old building with
no special permit in a commercial zone, noting that person could not rebuild. Mr.
Morgan emphasized that rebuilding should be legal until the owners want to change the
use of the property. Mayor Randels asked if Mr. Morgan was speaking of the original
owners or anyone who purchases the property. Mr. Boucher noted that there are three
issues in this section; continuance of use of structure, continuance of the use of land
and land /structure use. Mr. Boucher suggested putting aside questionable instances
and proceeding through the entire draft code.
Ms. McNeely stated that this code is an avenue to rid some of the older structures, such
as some of the old fishing shacks. Mr. Russell explained that an owner can build the
structure back as long as it is built back to city code standards.
Mr. Peetz noted that the city would like to protect the single family dwellings but asked
about those properties that have high density. Mr. Peetz was under the impression that
a rebuild would be to the previous footprint. Mayor Randels inquired about 405 Tyler
Avenue, where the owner wanted to recondition 27 different units and was not allowed.
Mr. Petsos replied that instance was a redevelopment. Mr. Russell asked the Council to
decide what the city really wants to accomplish through this code.
Mayor Pro Tem Hoog stated the example of a 1960's house with a 6 -foot setback. The
house is destroyed. Can you build it back with the 6 foot setback? The house must be
built to the present code which is an 8 foot setback. Mayor Pro Tern Hoog stated that
the revised code requires that you build to present code which includes density and
setback
Mr. Boucher noted that this section deals with two issues, Illegal or unlawful structures
and legal or lawful structures. Mr. Boucher continued that the City Attorney can
separate these two issues into different sections for clarification purposes.
It was noted that the definition of "destroyed or destruction" would need clarification to
include tortuous acts committed "not by the owner". There was discussion regarding
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the market value or fair market value of the structure by a licensed appraiser, whichever
is higher. Mr. Morley noted that the structure value is obtained by the Brevard County
Appraiser's web site or by the fair market value of a licensed appraiser.
Mr. Morley also suggested that the city council adopt the 2004 Florida Building Code
regarding the definition of "Structural materials ".
Mr. Russell explained that through the nonconformities code, the City is attempting to
upgrade the overall appearance of the City. Mr. Peetz inputted that section 110- 193(c)
is much stronger language than the previous ordinance. Mr. Morgan expressed his
concern regarding taking away rights from the people. Mr. Russell replied that if section
110- 193(c) is removed that you may as well throw out the entire ordinance.
Mayor Pro Tern Hoog stated that there are buildings which the city does not have
special exception records. He noted the example of Chuck Applegate's property that
has no special exception. Mr. Russell interjected how does the city know there was
even a special exception granted? Mayor Randels replied that the owner states that
fact. Mr. Russell replied that if he understands correctly, the council is agreeing not
take any nonconformities away. Mr. Russell recommended adding to the code that the
Planning & Zoning Board should review special permits. Mayor Randels asked if there
were any illegal use of buildings at the time this code was passed. Mr. Boucher stated
that a new form is being used in the Finance Department when applying for an
occupational license. Potential applicants must check with the Building Official for any
code related issues. Mr. Boucher reiterated that Council should review the bulk of the
ordinance and return to the actual intent later.
Section 110- 195(a)
Mr. Peetz suggested exempting residential structures on Section 110- 195(a). "This
section applies only to non - residential structures." Mr. Morley stated that he has had no
problems enforcing this section.
Section 110- 195(b)
Mr. Morley responded to Mr. Morgan that a second story could be built above an
existing home as long as it matches the footprint or "envelope ".
Section 110- 195(c)
Mayor Randels explained that this section states that at one time a structure was not
permitted; then the structure was altered to be conforming. An owner cannot revert
back to the nonconforming structure once it has been corrected.
Mr. Morley stated that there is a conflict with the mobile home parks section 110 -192.
Mr. Morley stated that if you remove the structure you are curing the problem. The
mobile home cannot be put back in place. Attorney Garganese stated that section 110-
192 is more specific. Mr. Morley asked if the Attorney could clarify the language to
include "Mobile homes not withstanding ". Discussion continued regarding parking
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spaces and seating at the Mexican restaurant. Mr. Morgan stated that he believes the
use should only change by the owner's choice. Attorney Garganese stated that if you
are going to allow nonconforming uses to continue, what is the purpose of the
ordinance? He continued that structures get worn and policies change. These
nonconformities should be phased out and a new direction set for council. Attorney
Garganese stated that he understands the concerns for property rights and asked if the
council would consider a middle ground for residential nonconformities. He explained
an example that upon removal of a structure, the code allows the property owner a
period of time to file an application to build within the footprint and should the owner not
act, the nonconformity is removed.
Mr. Morgan stated that all cities are different and currently there are businesses without
sufficient parking. Mr. Morgan believes that changes will evolve without taking from the
people and pointed out the example of Cocoa Beach. Mr. Morgan reiterated that he has
a real problem in taking away from the people. Mr. Morgan stated that there are many
instances in Mississippi where people are still awaiting their insurance checks and
questioned how much time is really enough.
Attorney Garganese stated that if the city adopts a comprehensive plan policy that
results in nonconformities the city cannot issue development agreements. He stated
that if the city code is inconsistent with the comprehensive plan, the city cannot issue a
permit. Future plans that include nonconformities can affect the city's comprehensive
plan policies.
The next code review workshop will be held on April 18, 2006 at 5 PM in the City Hall
Annex. The code review will begin with section 110-195 (d).
ADJOURNMENT:
Due to a subsequent City Council Regular Meeting, the Chair adjourned the meeting at
6:50 P.M.
Virginialiaas, Assistant City Clerk
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