HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes 03-07-2006 WorkshopCITY COUNCIL JOINT WORKSHOP
MEETING WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD
CITY HALL ANNEX
111 Polk Avenue, Cape Canaveral, Florida
TUESDAY
March 7, 2006
5:00 PM
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER
A joint meeting of the City of Cape Canaveral City Council and Planning & Zoning Board was held
on March 7, 2006 at 5:00 p.m. in the City Hall Annex, 111 Polk Avenue, Cape Canaveral, Florida.
The Assistant City Clerk called the roll.
ROLL CALL:
Council Members Present
Mayor Pro Tern
Council Member
Council Member
Council Member
Mayor
Bob Hoog
Jim Morgan
Leo Nicholas
Buzz Petsos
Rocky Randels
Planning and Zoning Board Members Present:
Chairperson
Vice Chairperson
Regular Member
Regular Member
Others Present
City Manager
City Attorney
Assistant City Attorney
Assistant City Clerk
City Planner
Building Official
DISCUSSION:
Beatrice McNeely
R. Lamar Russell
Donald Dunn
Harry Pearson
Bennett Boucher
Anthony Garganese
Kate Latorre
Virginia Haas
Todd Peetz
Todd Morley
City Code Review: Chapter 110 -191 through 110 -321
ARTICLE V. NONCONFORMITIES
Sec. 110 -191. Intent.
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City Council Code Review Workshop
March 7. 2006
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Mayor Randels explained that this section indicates recognition of existing conditions
which a property owner can keep, but additional changes in nonconformities are not
allowed. Todd Peetz, City Planner, advised that some structures were built before
adopted zoning codes and asked how the City might address these structures? It was
clarified that this section dealt solely with zoning issues not building codes. Property
owners are allowed to maintain setback variances but interior changs must follow
current standard building codes.
Attorney Garganese stated that the code should reflect zoning standards that existed at
the time of construction or at the time the nonconformity was established not prior to
1983. Mr. Russell passed out a written example of two townhomes on a nonconforming
lot of record. There was discussion whether measurement was taken per lot or per unit.
Mayor Randels expressed that there are townhouse units being built less than 20 feet.
Mr. Russell replied that the Planning and Zoning Board's intent was for the units to build
at a minimum of 20 feet. Mr. Russell stated that the Building Official's job is to measure
the 20 feet, however Council stated that the Building Official is measuring the lot width
not the unit width. Mr. Russell inputted that the code was written to provide two car
garages that equal the width of the townhome.
Mr. Morley explained that you can have a lot 180 feet wide with 8 unit townhomes and
adjoining party walls. The middle units will be 20 feet wide and the two end units would
be scaled back to achieve the setback regulations. A townhouse is a zero lot line
property built in a series. Mr. Russell stated that the Planning & Zoning board worked
diligently to eliminate staggered parking and it appears that the code has been
subverted and now allows for units less than 20 feet.
Mr. Morley reviewed section 110- 191(b) "if it is destroyed", and suggested adding
"accidentally destroyed by fire, hurricane'. Mr. Morley explained that an applicant had
considered "bulldozing" a structure as applicable to being "destroyed. Attorney
Garganese stated, that "destroyed" could be added to the zoning definitions. Attorney
Garganese stated that he would also like to revise the code to reflect rebuilding
structures to zoning standards that existed at the time the non conformity was created.
Mr. Pearson noted that those who built in 1995 are not grandfathered in for
nonconforming use prior to 1983. Attorney Garganese will propose amendments to City
Council regarding 110- 191(b). Attorney Garganese impressed upon Council that all
decisions return to the Intent Section of 110 -191.
Discussed followed that Mr. Morley should set a standard for applying appraisals. Mr.
Russell stated that City Council could, in fad, remove all nonconforming issues. Mr.
Peetz replied that the City must provide a minimum standard for non - conforming lots.
Mr. Morgan stated that a change in density would have to be voted on by referendum.
Attorney Garganese stated that 110 -191 (d) "Catastophe' will be added to Chapter 110
definitions list.
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City Council Code Review Workshop
March 7.2006
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Sec. 110-192. Mobile home parks and single-family mobile home districts.
Mr. Russell questioned how the numbers of mobile homes are increasing with section
110-192 in place. Mr. Morgan asked if they were vacancies which have been filled.
Mr. Peetz noted that platted or licensed mobile home parks are the code reference. Mr.
Russell asked council if we needed to clarify the intent of this section. Attorney
Garganese stated that Winter Park uses state law to address these uses and will be
reviewed for consistency with Florida Statutes.
The next code review workshop will begin with Sec. 110-193. Nonconforming
structures.
ADJOURNMENT:
Due to a subsequent City Council Regular Meeting, the Chair adjourned the meeting at
6:50 P.M.
Virginia Haas,Assistant City Clerk
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Misconception:
Two townhomes on a nonconforming lot of record
Let's clear up this missconception.
People should not assert that "two townhomes can be built on a
single 50 feet nonconforming lot of record."
Here's how it works. To build a townhome on nonconforming lots of
record, one must BUY TWO 50 FEET LOTS, COMBINE THEM AND
THEN BUILD TWO, THREE, OR A MAXIMUM OF FOUR
TOWNHOMES.
Here's why.
You must have adequate side setbacks.
Let's use two interior 50 feet lots on a typical block in Avon By the
Sea (so we can rid ourselves of any confusion in this
discussion about corner lot setbacks).
If one intended to build a townhome on one 50 feet lot, the side
setbacks must be 8 feet. So the total requirement for side
setbacks equals 16 feet, leaving 34 feet for the building footprint. No
9 p t
enough for two townhouses which require a minimum of 20 feet width
per unit, equaling 40 feet. Can't do it. Not enough setback margin.
So, the developer is forced to buy two adjoining lots, combine them,
now having a total of 100 feet lot width.
Now let's do the math. Two side setbacks equals 16 feet, leaving 84
feet to build townhomes. A maximum of four townhomes would now
fit,
thus the widely touted opinion that "one can build two townhomes on
a nonconforming lot."
It's true, but you gotta build four to get there!