HomeMy WebLinkAboutMay 28, 2008PLANNING & ZONING BOARD
MEETING MINUTES
MAY 28, 2008
A Regular Meeting of the Planning & Zoning Board was held on May 28, 2008, at
the City Hall Annex, 111 Polk Avenue, Cape Canaveral, Florida. Chairperson
Bea McNeely called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. The Secretary called the
roll.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Bea McNeely Chairperson
Lamar Russell Vice Chairperson
John Fredrickson
Donald Dunn
Harry Pearson
John Johanson 1st Alternate
MEMBERS ABSENT
Ronald Friedman 2nd Alternate
OTHERS PRESENT
Rocky Randels
Mayor
Robert Hoog
Mayor Pro Tem
Shannon Roberts
Councilmember
Bennett Boucher
City Manager
Todd Morley
Building Official
Todd Peetz
City Planner
Susan Chapman
Board Secretary
NEW BUSINESS
1. Approval of Meeting Minutes May 14,�2008
Motion by Harry Pearson, seconded by Donald Dunn, to approve the meeting
minutes of May 14, 2008, as written. Vote on the motion carried unanimously.
DISCUSSION
Presentation: Guest Speaker - Phil Laurien F------ ve Director of the
East Central Florida Regional Planning Council
Todd Peetz, City Planner, introduced guest speaker Phil Laurien Executive
Director of the East Central Florida Regional Planning Council. Mr. Peetz
announced that Mr. Laurien had a broad knowledge and extensive expertise in
planning, and he was at the meeting to assist the Board by giving guidance for
redevelopment, and mixed-use.
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Phil Laurien, Executive Director of the East Central Florida Regional Planning
Council, advised that many communities were currently considering
redevelopment. He began by presenting a PowerPoint presentation which
highlighted ways of how to promote more growth and redevelopment by creating
town center(s) to avoid urban sprawl. He used the City of Tavares as an
example of this.
Mr. Laurien requested that the members ask themselves how the City should
grow and to think about the following:
• History of Visioning
• Intensity of neighborhoods within a Community Redevelopment
Agency (CRA)
• Preference survey for architecture and use within neighborhoods
• Refine the meaning of intensity
• How tall was too tall
• Should tall buildings belong along the water frontage
The Board members viewed photographs of various down -town areas and were
asked:
• How tall were the buildings? How tall should they be? What were
they used for? Could water be scene or did the buildings block the
water? What could be changed? What should stay the same?
• What did they like about the scene?
• What did they not like?
• What could be changed?
• What should stay the same?
• What elements of the old neighborhood did they like?
• Did they like the picture of the old courthouse, and if so, what did
they like.
The Board members were asked to consider identifying the City's strengths,
weaknesses and opportunities. Mr. Laurien pointed -out the strengths,
weaknesses and opportunities of the City of Tavares by obtaining community
input as follows:
Strengths - 100°! of 28 votes said that they had unique opportunities, a great
grid street system and downtown parks: 96% of 27 voteC said that they lived
within 1 1/2 blocks away from downtown and could walk to everything except the
grocery store, and most of their children walked to school.
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Weaknesses - 93% of 26 votes said the City was reactive, not proactive; 78% of
22 votes said the City was losing its history; and 61% of 17 votes said that the
black community felt left out and not a part of the City anymore.
Opportunities - 100% of 28 votes said that their could be a town center like it
once was in the old town; 100% of 28 votes said that economics was pushing
people back to live/work neighborhoods; 96% of 27 votes said that the City had
the basic elements of an old neighborhood and needed the return of the butcher,
baker, and grocery to the downtown; 89% of 25 votes said that the City needed
to identify which laws needed to be changed to enhance redevelopment of
downtown; 82% of 23 votes said that the City had assets and infrastructure other
places did not and could be redeveloped more easily as a transportation hub;
100% of 28 votes said that investment came to small towns with better plans;
100% of 28 votes said the City had to have a vision; 93% of 26 votes said that
they had a great city park on the lake; 86% of 24 votes agreed that codes were in
place to redevelop; and 71 % of 20 votes said that successful communities had
rail, jobs and schools downtown and that the base core was still there.
Threats - Hear talk like visioning before. Example: We saved a 10 year old
agenda - nothing got done.
Mr. Laurien advised that there was a movie called "Save our Lands, Save our
Town" which teaches the difference between old and new neighborhoods; and
identified historic development patterns that: 1) supported regular interaction of
neighbors; fostered a pedestrian friendly environment; 3) provided for open
space; and creation of a city's identity by visible boundaries. The movie also
taught that history would play an important role in the future.
Mr. Laurien advised that in considering redevelopment, the City of Tavares
viewed a PowerPoint titled "The Scale of Creat Places", which explained hour
Savannah, Georgia and Miami Beach, Florida reinvented themselves around the
theme of their historic core. They had defined "human scale" as architectural
elements built to human proportions (steps, doorways, railings, columns, eaves,
niches, medallions, and moldings). They learned how human scale is
deliberately ignored, by modernist architects to achieve a larger than life
monument effect. Mr. Laurien explained that even as taller buildings rose above
the more typical 3-4 stories, their architecture, landscaping, and detail remained
human in scale. He showed an example of a taller building and asked the Board
If the building looked ?nnrnnritA He advised that the building was six stories
surrounded by three stories. µ The Board looked at photos of the Savannah
College of Art and Design building that was six stories; and a plain office building
to the rear of the college that was seven stories tall which looked out of place.
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The Board looked at an example of two large buildings along a waterway that
were considered out of scale and not in harmony with the architecture of other
buildings in Savannah.
The next step that the City of Tavares did was to discuss how to capitalize on
strengths and overcome weaknesses by turning them into opportunities. The
attendees of the meeting were asked to participate in an exercise. The
participants were given disposable cameras and were asked to photograph
beautiful or ugly attributes of a City (architectural styles, densities, signage,
colors, etc.) A month later, the participants brought in photographs which were
randomly clustered and placed onto display boards. Each participant received
red, blue, green & yellow stickers. The red stickers were placed next to the
type/style of buildings preferred as next most intense type of development.
Green dots were placed next to the type/style buildings for the next most intense
type of redevelopment. Yellow dots were placed next to building pictures that
typified the least intense development. Attendees also place colored dots onto
the CRA map. Red dots were placed where the highest intensity development
was preferred, followed by blue, green, and yellow for the least intense. The
conclusion was that there were neighborhoods within the CRA District. The
Board members looked at several photographs from the PowerPoint that showed
the results of the exercise.
Mr. Laurien recapped that the red votes included: buildings not exceeding five
stories high; mixed use buildings (i.e. retail, offices, residential); awnings; tables
with umbrellas; street trees; nice lighting; wide sidewalks; streetscape; human
friendly; on -street parking; people friendly streets; encourage tourism downtown;
detailed architecture and various styles; retail on the 1st floor, residential above.
Mr. Laurien advised that the City Council's CRA Goals for the City of Tavares
included:
• Promoting the CR
I A as a focal point of the community by providing
and encouraging designed spaces for a wide range of
offices/studios, businesses, retail shops/eateries, public gathering
areas, and cultural activities.
• Create short term and long term plans.
• Create an economic development strategic plan (downtown lob
creation),
i Provide for the implemUt natation of design standards and guidelines
to promote development and redevelopment that is sensitive to
architectural resources and quality design, preserves visual quality,
enhances visual unity and accommodates pedestrians.
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• Promote the integration of pedestrian traffic with vehicle traffic.
• Promote the efficient use of land and sensitivity to the environment
and water bodies.
• Provide for a mixed-use of housing with commercial that is
compatible with the development in areas of similar intensity.
• Encourage quality facades along streets, sidewalks, and pedestrian
ways which will contribute to the City's overall character and charm.
• Promote projects which will encourage private, public, and civic
partnerships in order to bring patrons to the downtown area
(Festivals, block parties, entertainment, events, etc.)
Mr. Laurien shared the following suggestions and considerations to help the City:
• Complete a downtown development assessment.
• Evaluate the needs and opportunities for the community.
• Create a vision. What does the City want and where do they want
it located?
• Analyze existing land use.
• Define a downtown center.
• Refine the meaning of intensity in the various districts you create.
• Establish a vision for the CRA neighborhoods.
• Write form -based codes that incorporate the vision and the CRA
Goals.
• Change the Comprehensive, Plan by adding incentives to stimulate
redevelopment.
• Good investors do not want to come and fight with a City for years
and years. They will bring their money somewhere else.
• Increase intensity and demand amenities from developers.
• Consider extending existing sidewalks, walkways and bike paths.
• Try to create a town center to live, work and play.
• Refine the meaning of intensity.
• Set buildings back for angled parking vs. parallel parking.
• Maximize number of parking spaces.
• Create short-term and long-term plans.
• Create sub -zones to better develop the City's vision - where image
and reality align.
• Create a Vision Statement.
• Stat with one good City block or area that would be enticing to
developers.
• Define a place (location, location, location).
• Create a theme.
• Adequate intensity can change from block to block.
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• Consider what's the most viable economic use of property is.
• Transportation element is important. Consider expanding bus
routes.
• Show visual preferences and get comments from the public.
• For retail, include: general stores, spas, coffee shops, downtown
restaurants, sidewalk vendors, ice cream parlors, drug stores,
bakeries, and flower shops.
• Revise existing codes for specific mixed use overlays, in defined
areas, so existing uses would not become non -conforming.
• Begin the thought process by contacting everyone that is located
within an overlaid area. Invite them to a meeting when you will be
talking about redevelopment within their area. Suggest that they
work together with the City. Take them on a bus tour to look at
existing properties and ask what their future desires would be if the
overlaid areas were redeveloped.
In an effort to keep the City's momentum going, Mr. Laurien offered to comeback,
(if the Board would be patient on scheduling) and bring a 50 minute movie titled:
Save our Land, Save our Town for the Board and audience to watch and then
open the meeting to discussion.
Mr. Laurien gave two web -site addresses: www.flickr.com to look at photographs
of various mixed-use developments; and www.myreglon ora to review an article
called "How Should We Grow?"
The Mayor and City Council members in attendance, Board members, City staff
and the audience thanked Mr. Laurien for his time and excellent presentation.
2. Discussion Re: Mixed Use Districts
Chairperson McNeely announced that the Board had already had enough
discussion about mixed use districts for the evening.
OPEN DISCUSSION
John Porter, resident, property owner, and business owner, asked to address the
Board to discuss a potential project on his family's 5.8 acres of commercial
property along N. ,atlantic avenue. Chairperson McNeely allowed Mr. Porter to
speak. He thanked the Chairperson and advised that he had a potential buyer
for the property who wanted to construct a two flag hotel, with 171 rooms; and
four accessory structures. Nikesh Shah, potential buyer, provided the Board
members a hand-out showing a proposed architectural rendering and site layout
of the property:
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Laura Minton Young, Esquire, spoke regarding the proposed hotel project. She
advised that Manzill, LLC was proposing to develop a hotel to be located on an
approximately 5.8 acre lot, with a detached restaurant. The question to the
Board was whether the proposed hotel project satisfied the City's density
requirement, which was calculated as rental units per acre, mandated by the City
code.
Ms. Young explained that C-1 is the only zoning classification that permitted
hotels. Such permitted hotels must have a minimum of 150 rental units with no
more than 30 rental units per net acre. She voiced her opinion that based on
Section 110-332, the only hotel projects permitted in the City were those with at
least 150 rental units necessitating at least five net acres.
Unfortunately, the City's Land Development Code failed to provide a definition of
what constituted a net acre. The only place where density could be calculated
per the City's code was in Section 110-1, where the term "net residential acre" is
defined. Ms. Young explained that restaurants are customarily accessory uses
for hotel projects providing service to its hotel guests and others. Accordingly,
net acreage for purposes under City Code Section 110-332 should include the
horizontal acreage of a lot devoted exclusively to hotel uses and accessory
restaurant uses. She voiced her opinion that clearly, that was how Section 110-
332 would be applied if the restaurant was inside the hotel. She advised that
nothing in the City's code indicated a different standard should be applicable
because the restaurant is located outside of the hotel, as a free standing facility.
Ms. Young read the City's definition of accessory use. She stated that accessory
use meant a use or structure on the same lot with and of a nature customarily
incidental and subordinate to the principal use or structure. She voiced her
opinion that the definition indicated that an accesso- use could be a separate
structure on a lot. She noted that restaurants do not provide lodging of any kind,
and therefore, did not contribute rental units to a hotel's density requirements.
Ms. Young explained that the City promulgated Section 110-253 to prevent the
reuse of area used for density calculation in certain instances. It provided that
the area used in either a site plan or plot plan to determine the number of living
units allowed in that area shall not be reused in computing the number of living
units for that area or for any subsequent area used within that area. The Section
dealt with the use of an area to compute the number of living units for a project or
area more than once to allow more living units than would normally be permitted
under the Code. Ms. Young used the following example: two hotels could not
utilize the saCnF? area fn parmit 150 units for each 1-�otei. This development
project did not fall into the jurisdiction of this prohibition because it included only
one use or structure that had a density requirement, the hotel, and one structure
or use that did not, the restaurant. The developer is not attempting to gain more
density, rental units per acre, than would normally be permitted on the lot in the
C-1 zone.
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Ms. Young explained that the proposed project did not entail subdividing the lot
to provide an out parcel for the eating establishment. Both the hotel and the
eating establishment would be located within the boundaries of the one lot and
would be under common ownership. The project should be considered one
development project. The hotel project would be immensely beneficial for the
surrounding area and the overall commercial district because it would increase
the productivity and raise the quality of the current use of the property.
The Board held discussion regarding if they could have two flags in one building.
The consensus of the Board was that they could have two flags in one building
only under one owner and operation. The Board held discussion regarding the
proposed accessory structures. The definition of an accessory structure and a
hotel was read b the Cit 6�4nner
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was based on the number of units for the hotel included acreage from the
accessory structures could not be sold off. Chairperson McNeely asked Todd
Peetz, City Planner, if the proposed project met the Code. He responded that
everything on the site had to be one owner and one operator; and a binding
development agreement should be submitted stating that it would remain in that
manner of ownership and operation in perpetuity of the uses being on site.
Secondly, they would need to provide a listing of the accessory uses so that if the
uses changed in the future, there would be no question if the changed use was
an accessory use. He noted that the City has not received any submittal for the
proposed project and the plans presented were only conceptual, however the
developer would need to demonstrate that the accessory uses would be
customarily incidental and subordinate to the primary use.
Mr, Porter, property owner, advised that the buyer wanted to make sure the City
was viable to the proposed project and had support from the City before moving
forward. Discussion followed. Chairperson McNeely asked Todd Morley,
Building Official, his opinion on the issue. Mr. Morley answered that the City
code had been enforced historically that five acres would have to be only for the
hotel use. Following discussion, the Board concluded to request the City
Attorney to give a ruling on Incidental uses, and if two hotel chains being in one
building met the intent of the City code. Mr. Porter thanked the Board.
There being no further business the meeting was adjourned at 10:10
p.m.
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