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HomeMy WebLinkAboutP & Z Packet 6-11-08 City of Cape Canaveral PLANNING & ZONING BOARD REGULAR MEETING CITY HALL ANNEX 111 POLK AVENUE JUNE 11, 2008 AGENDA Call to Order Roll Call NEW BUSINESS 1. Approval of Meeting Minutes: May 28, 2008. DISCUSSION 1. Presentation: Guest Speaker, Laura Canady, J.D., Community Development Director, City of Satellite Beach. 2. Discussion Re: Mixed Use. OPEN DISCUSSION ADJOURN Pursuant to Section 286.1015, F.S., the City hereby advises the public that: If a person decides to appeal any decision made by the Planning and Zoning Board with respect to any matter rendered at this meeting, that person will need a record of the proceedings, and for such purpose that person may need to ensure that a verbatim record of the proceedings is made, which record includes the testimony and evidence upon which the appeal is to be based. This notice does not constitute consent by the City for the introduction or admission into evidence of otherwise inadmissible or irrelevant evidence, nor does it authorize challenges or appeals not otherwise allowed by law. This meeting may include the attendance of one or more members of the Cape Canaveral City Council, Board of Adjustment, Code Enforcement and/or Community Appearance Board who mayor may not participate in Board discussions held at this public meeting. Persons with disabilities needing assistance to participate in any of these proceedings should contact the City Clerk's office at 868-1221,48 hours in advance of the meeting. 105 Polk Avenue · Post Office Box 326 · Cape Canaveral, FL 32920-0326 Telephone: (321) 868-1222 · SUNCOM: 982-1222 · FAX: (321) 868-1247 www.myflorida.com/cape · email: ccapecanaveral@cf1.rr.com PLANNING & ZONING BOARD MEETING MINUTES MAY 28, 2008 A Regular Meeting of the Planning & Zoning Board was held on May 28, 2008, at the City Hall Annex, 111 Polk Avenue, Cape Canaveral, Florida. Chairperson Bea McNeely called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. The Secretary called the roll. MEMBERS PRESENT Bea McNeely Chairperson Lamar Russell Vice Chairperson John Fredrickson Donald Dunn Harry Pearson John Johanson 1 st Alternate MEMBERS ABSENT Ronald Friedman 2nd Alternate OTHERS PRESENT Rocky Randels Mayor Robert Hoog Mayor Pro T em Shannon Roberts Councilmember Bennett Boucher City Manager Todd Morley Building Official Todd Peetz City Planner Susan Chapman Board Secretary' NEW BUSINESS 1. Approval of Meetinq Minutes May 14, 2008. Motion by Harry Pearson, seconded by Donald Dunn, to approve the meeting minutes of May 14, 2008, as written. Vote on the motion carried unanimously. DISCUSSION 1. Presentation: Guest Speaker - Phil Laurien, Executive Director of the East Central Florida Reqional Plannina Council. Todd Peetz, City Planner, introduced guest speaker Phil Laurien, Executive Director of the East Central Florida Regional Planning Council. Mr. Peetz announced that Mr. Laurien had a broad knowledge and extensive expertise in planning, and he was at the meeting to assist the Board by giving guidance for redevelopment and mixed=use. Planning & Zoning Board Meeting Minutes May 28,2008 Page 2 Phil Laurien, Executive Director of the East Central Florida Regional Planning Council, advised that many communities were currently considering redevelopment. He began by presenting a PowerPoint presentation which highlighted ways of how to promote more growth and redevelopment by creating town center(s) to avoid urban sprawl. He used the City of Tavares as an example of this. Mr. Laurien requested that the members ask themselves how the City should grow and to think about the following: . History of Visioning . Intensity of neighborhoods within a Community Redevelopment Ant:>n('" rrRA \ I '~_IIV} \.........." "J . Preference survey for architecture and use within neighborhoods . Refine the meaning of intensity . How tall was too tall . Should tall buildings belong along the water frontage The Board members viewed photographs of various down-town areas and were asked: . How tall were the buildings? How tall should they be? What were they used for? Could water be scene or did the buildings block the water? What could be changed? What should stay the same? .. VVhat did they like about the scene? . VVhat did they not iike? .. VVhat could be changed? . What should stay the same? . What elements of the oid neighborhood did they like? . Did they like the picture of the old courthouse, and if so, what did they like. The Board members were asked to consider identifying the City's strengths, weaknesses and opportunities. Mr. Laurien pointed-out the strengths, weaknesses and opportunities of the City of Tavares by obtaining community input as follows: Strengths - 100% of 28 votes said that they had unique opportunities, a great grid street system and downtown parks; 96% of 27 votes said that they lived within 1 1/2 blocks away from downtown and could walk to everything except the grocery store, and most of their children walked to school. Planning & Zoning Board Meeting Minutes May 28, 2008 Page 3 Weaknesses - 93% of 26 votes said the City was reactive, not proactive; 78% of 22 votes said the City was losing its history; and 61 % of 17 votes said that the black community felt left out and not a part of the City anymore. Opportunities - 100% of 28 votes said that their could be a town center like it once was in the old town; 100% of 28 votes said that economics was pushing people back to live/work neighborhoods; 96% of 27 votes said that the City had the basic elements of an old neighborhood and needed the return of the butcher, baker, and grocery to the downtown; 89% of 25 votes said that the City needed to identify which laws needed to be changed to enhance redevelopment of downtown; 82% of 23 votes said that the City had assets and infrastructure other places did not and could be redeveloped more easily as a transportation hub; 100% of 28 votes said that investment came to small towns with better plans; 100% of 28 votes said the City had to have a vision; 93% of 26 votes said that they had a great city park on the lake; 86% of 24 votes agreed that codes were in place to redevelop; and 71 % of 20 votes said that successful communities had rail, jobs and schools downtown and that the base core was still there. Threats - Hear talk like visioning before. Example: We saved a 10 year old agenda - nothing got done. Mr. Laurien advised that there was a movie called "Save our Lands, Save our Town" which teaches the difference between old and new neighborhoods; and identified historic development patterns that: 1) supported regular interaction of neighbors; fostered a pedestrian friendly environment; 3) provided for open space; and creation of a city's identity by visible boundaries. The movie also taught that history would play an important role in the future. Mr. Laurien advised that in considering redevelopment, the City of Tavares viewed a PowerPoint titled "The Scale of Great Places", which explained how Savannah, Georgia and Miami Beach, Florida reinvented themselves around the theme of their historic core. They had defined "human scale" as architectural elements built to human proportions (steps, doorways, railings, columns, eaves, niches, medallions, and moldings). They learned how human scale is deliberately ignored, by modernist architects to achieve a larger than life monument effect. Mr. Laurien explained that even as taller buildings rose above the more typical 3-4 stories, their architecture, landscaping, and detail remained human in scale. He showed an example of a taller building and asked the Board if the building looked appropriate. He advised that the building was six stories surrounded by three stories. The Board looked at photos of the Savannah College of Art and Design building that was six stories; and a plain office building to the rear of the college that was seven stories tall which looked out of place. Planning & Zoning Board Meeting Minutes May 28,2008 Page 4 The Board looked at an example of two large buildings along a waterway that were considered out of scale and not in harmony with the architecture of other buildings in Savannah. The next step that the City of Tavares did was to discuss how to capitalize on strengths and overcome weaknesses by turning them into opportunities. The attendees of the meeting were asked to participate in an exercise. The participants were given disposable cameras and were asked to photograph beautiful or ugly attributes of a City (architectural styles, densities, signage, colors, etc.) A month later, the participants brought in photographs which were randomly clustered and placed onto display boards. Each participant received red, blue, green & yellow stickers. The red stickers were placed next to the type/style of buildings preferred as next most intense type of development. Green dots were placed next to the type/style buildings for the next most intense type of redevelopment. Yellow dots were placed next to building pictures that typified the least intense development. Attendees also place colored dots onto the CRA map. Red dots were placed where the highest intensity development was preferred, followed by blue, green, and yellow for the least intense. The conclusion was that there were neighborhoods within the CRA District. The Board members looked at several photographs from the PowerPoint that showed the results of the exercise. Mr. laurien recapped that the red votes included: buildings not exceeding five stories high; mixed use buildings (i.e. retail, offices, residential); awnings; tables with umbrellas; street trees; nice lighting; wide sidewalks; streetscape; human friendly; on-street parking; people friendly streets; encourage tourism downtown; detailed architecture and various styles; retail on the 1 st floor, residential above. Mr. laurien advised that the City Council's eRA Goals for the City of Tavares included: . Promoting the CRA as a focal point of the community by providing and encouraging designed spaces for a wide range of offices/studios, businesses, retail shops/eateries, public gathering areas, and cultural activities. .. Create short term and long term plans. . Create an economic development strategic plan (downtown job creation ). . Provide for the implementation of design standards and guidelines to promote development and redevelopment that is sensitive to architectural resources and quality design, preserves visual quality, enhances visual unity and accommodates pedestrians. Planning & Zoning Board Meeting Minutes May 28, 2008 Page 5 . Promote the integration of pedestrian traffic with vehicle traffic. . Promote the efficient use of land and sensitivity to the environment and water bodies. . Provide for a mixed-use of housing with commercial that is compatible with the development in areas of similar intensity. . Encourage quality facades along streets, sidewalks, and pedestrian ways which will contribute to the City's overall character and charm. . Promote projects which will encourage private, public, and civic partnerships in order to bring patrons to the downtown area (Festivals, block parties, entertainment, events, etc.) Mr. Laurien shared the following suggestions and considerations to help the City: . Complete a downtown development assessment. . Evaluate the needs and opportunities for the community. . Create a vision. What does the City want and where do they want it located? . Analyze existing land use. . Define a downtown center. . Refine the meaning of intensity in the various districts you create. . Establish a vision for the CRA neighborhoods. . Write form-based codes that incorporate the vision and the CRA Goals. . Change the Comprehensive Plan by adding incentives to stimulate redevelopment. . Good investors do not want to come and fight with a City for years and years. They will bring their money somewhere else. . Increase intensity and demand amenities from developers. . Consider extending existing sidewalks, walkways and bike paths. . Try to create a town center to live, work and play. . Refine the meaning of intensity. . Set buildings back for angled parking vs. parallel parking. . Maximize number of parking spaces. . Create short-term and long-term plans. . Create sub-zones to better develop the City's vision - where image and reality align. .. Create a Vision Statement. . Start with one good City block or area that would be enticing to developers. . Define a place (location, location, location). . Create a theme. . Adequate intensity can change from block to block. Planning & Zoning Board Meeting Minutes May 28, 2008 Page 6 . Consider what's the most viable economic use of property is. . Transportation element is important. Consider expanding bus routes. . Show visual preferences and get comments from the public. . For retail, include: general stores, spas, coffee shops, downtown restaurants, sidewalk vendors, ice cream parlors, drug stores, bakeries, and flower shops. . Revise existing codes for specific mixed use overlays, in defined areas, so existing uses would not become non-conforming. . Begin the thought process by contacting everyone that is located within an overlaid area. Invite them to a meeting when you will be talking about redevelopment within their area. Suggest that they work together with the City. Take them on a bus tour to look at existing properties and ask what their future desires would be if the overlaid areas were redeveloped. In an effort to keep the City's momentum going, Mr. Laurien offered to comeback, (if the Board would be patient on scheduling) and bring a 50 minute movie titled: Save our Land, Save our Town for the Board and audience to watch and then open the meeting to discussion. Mr. Laurien gave two web-site addresses: www.flickr.com to look at photographs of various mixed-use developments; and www.myreqion.orq to review an article called "How Should We Grow?" The Mayor and City Council members in attendance, Board members, City staff and the audience thanked Mr. Laurien for his time and excellent presentation. 2. Discussion Re: Mixed Use Districts Chairperson McNeely announced that the Board had already had enough discussion about mixed use districts for the evening. OPEN DISCUSSION John Porter, resident, property owner, and business owner, asked to address the Board to discuss a potential project on his family's 5.8 acres of commercial - - - ~ property along N. Atlantic Avenue. Chairperson McNeely allowed Mr. Porter to speak. He thanked the Chairperson and advised that he had a potential buyer for the property who wanted to construct a two flag hotel, with 171 rooms; and four accessory structures. Nikesh Shah, potential buyer, provided the Board members a hand-out showing a proposed architectural rendering and site layout nf thA nrnnprt\f -. ...- (". -("-- 'J' Planning & Zoning Board Meeting Minutes May 28, 2008 Page 7 Laura Minton Young, Esquire, spoke regarding the proposed hotel project. She advised that Manzill, LLC was proposing to develop a hotel to be located on an approximately 5.8 acre lot, with a detached restaurant. The question to the Board was whether the proposed hotel project satisfied the City's density requirement, which was calculated as rental units per acre, mandated by the City code. Ms. Young explained that C-1 is the only zoning classification that permitted hotels. Such permitted hotels must have a minimum of 150 rental units with no more than 30 rental units per net acre. She voiced her opinion that based on Section 110-332, the only hotel projects permitted in the City were those with at least 150 rental units necessitating at least five net acres. Unfortunately, the City's Land Development Code failed to provide a definition of what constituted a net acre. The only place where density could be calculated per the City's code was in Section 110-1, where the term "net residential acre" is defined. Ms. Young explained that restaurants are customarily accessory uses for hotel projects providing service to its hotel guests and others. Accordingly, net acreage for purposes under City Code Section 110-332 should include the horizontal acreage of a lot devoted exclusively to hotel uses and accessory restaurant uses. She voiced her opinion that clearly, that was how Section 110- 332 would be applied if the restaurant was inside the hotel. She advised that nothing in the City's code indicated a different standard should be applicable because the restaurant is located outside of the hotel, as a free standing facility. Ms. Young read the City's definition of accessory use. She stated that accessory use meant a use or structure on the same !ot with and of a nature customarily incidental and subordinate to the principal use or structure. She voiced her opinion that the definition indicated that an accessory use could be a separate structure on a lot. She noted that restaurants do not provide lodging of any kind, and therefore, did not contribute rental units to a hotel's density requirements. Ms. Young explained that the City promulgated Section 110-253 to prevent the reuse of area used for density calculation in certain instances. It provided that the area used in either a site plan or plot plan to determine the number of living units allowed in that area shall not be reused in computing the number of living units for that area or for any subsequent area used within that area. The Section dealt with the use of an area to compute the nUlIlber of living units for a project or area more than once to aiiow more living units than would normally be permitted under the Code. Ms. Young used the following example: two hotels could not utilize the same area to permit 150 units for each hotel. This development project did not fall into the jurisdiction of this prohibition because it included only one use or structure that had a density requirement, the hotel, and one structure or use that did not, the restaurant. The developer is not attempting to gain more - -. - density, rental units per acre, than would normally be permitted on the lot in the C-1 zone. Planning & Zoning Board Meeting Minutes May 28, 2008 Page 8 Ms. Young explained that the proposed project did not entail subdividing the lot to provide an out parcel for the eating establishment. Both the hotel and the eating establishment would be located within the boundaries of the one lot and would be under common ownership. The project should be considered one development project. The hotel project would be immensely beneficial for the surrounding area and the overall commercial district because it would increase the productivity and raise the quality of the current use of the property. The Board held discussion regarding if they could have two flags in one building. The consensus of the Board was that they could have two flags in one building only under one owner and operation. The Board held discussion regarding the proposed accessory structures. The definition of an accessory structure and a hotel was read by the City Attorney numerous times. The Board's discussion was based on the number of units for the hotel included acreage from the accessory structures could not be sold off. Chairperson McNeely asked Todd Peetz, City Planner, if the proposed project met the Code. He responded that everything on the site had to be one owner and one operator; and a binding development agreement should be submitted stating that it would remain in that manner of ownership and operation in perpetuity of the uses being on site. Secondly, they would need to provide a listing of the accessory uses so that if the uses changed in the future, there would be no question if the changed use was an accessory use. He noted that the City has not received any submittal for the proposed project and the plans presented were only conceptual, however the developer would need to demonstrate that the accessory uses would be customarily incidental and subordinate to the primary use. Mr. Porter, property owner, advised that the buyer wanted to make sure the City was viable to the proposed project and had support from the City before moving forward. Discussion followed. Chairperson McNeely asked Todd Morley, Building Official, his opinion on the issue. Mr. Morlev answered that the Citv , - - -..I code had been enforced historically that five acres would have to be only for the hotel use. Following discussion, the Board concluded to request the City Attorney to give a ruling on incidental uses, and if two hotel chains being in one building met the intent of the City code. Mr. Porter thanked the Board. There being no further business the meeting was adjourned at 10:10 P.III. Bea McNeely, Chairperson Susan L. Chapman, Secretary Meeting Type: Planning & Zoning Meeting Date: 6/11/07 AGENDA Heading Discussion Item # No. AGENDA REPORT PLANNING & ZONING BOARD THE CITY OF CAPE CANAVERAL SUBJECT: Discussion Laura Canady, J.D. Community Development Director, City of Satellite Beach. DEPT. /DIVISION: Building Department I Requested Actfun: I Presentation by guest speaker, no action required with possible direction to staff. Summary Explanation & Background: Ms. Canady was invited to speak to the Board about "Lessons Learned" with the creation of the Satellite Beach Community Redevelopment Agency (CRA). Ms. Canady will be able to discuss the process involved with the creation of a CRA and how the City of Satellite Beach operates their CRA. This is a timely discussion with some relevance to our discussions about mixed use districts aod the potential I I for redevelopment with the City. Exhibits Attached: I I Planning Official's Office I Department I I I Meeting Type: Planning & Zoning Board Meeting Date: 6/ll/07 AGENDA Heading Discussion Item # No. AGENDA REPORT PLANNING & ZONING BOARD THE CITY OF CAPE CANAVERAL SUBJECT: Discussion - Mixed Land Use DEPT.lDIVISION: Building Department I Requested Actiou: I Discussion and direction to staff concerning mixed l:l11d lise. Summary Explanation & Background: Mixed use districts have been discussed since the beginning of September. We have discussed the concepts of mixed use, elements of mixed use, how mixed use districts actually look, where they may be most appropriate in the City and had the Executive Director of the East Central Florida Regional Planning Council speak to the P&Z Board. The purpose of the discussion for tonight would be to re-evaluate the proposed course of action originally established back in September. It may be necessary to make some modifications to the list of actions as appropriate and based upon all the information we have heard and discussed. The steps identified previously are to look at other jurisdictions rules and requirements for Mixed Land Use in a matrix format. The purpose is to determine what elements would work for the City and \vhich would not. Proposed Action Items: 1) Create a Mixed-Use Matrix of rules and regulation from other communities I 2) Determine what elements would be appropriate for the City 3) Take Community Input 4) Invite Potential Stakeholders 5) Develop a concept plan with the Stakeholders input and support I 6) Have the code/concept plan critiqued to determine if it were economically feasible I 7) Modify and Adopt Ordinance as determined to be appropriate for the City We have processed steps one and two as part of the discussion; a consensus has not been established for these steps. Exhibits Attached: Miscellaneous Mixed Use District News from the Internet I Plauuiug Official's Office I Denartrnpnt I 1- r---- Maryland Daily Record Page 1 of2 Positive reaction so far to plan Popular Stories Man must pay child for mixed-use cityscape in support, despite test E-cfiscovery error Columbia waives attorney-client KATHLEEN JOHNSTON JARBOE privilege Four northernmost Special to The Daily Record light rail stops to be June 1, 2008 5:33 PM closed for 6 weeks In a 30-year project that could cost up to $5.2 billion in today's News Summary - 6/03 DLS gets subpoena in dollars, General Growth Properties Inc. has said it would probe of Currie complete James Rouse's dream for the community he founded Services in 1967 by transforming Columbia's downtown into a vibrant, urban core. Subscribe Get Our E-mail Alert The project is still in its dreamy phase. GGP has yet to release a detailed plan, and there are untold hurdles to cross before it would be completed. But GGP's initial proposal has warmed even some of its toughest critics. Resize Text A A A "We have a good working relationship with [Columbia general Article Tools manager] Greg [Hamm] as an organization, so we are cautiously optimistic," said Alan Klein, a spokesman for the Coalition for Columbia's Downtown. His group formed after residents began to fear GGP and the county would not incorporate residents' desires into the plan. Columbia's town center consists of a mall ringed by vast parking Gregory F. Hamm, regional vice president and lots with some office buildings, a lakefront and Merriweather general manager for the Columbia division of Post Pavilion nearby. General Growth Properties, Inc., is guiding the GGP's vision would remake that standard suburban core into a new plan for Columbia. manicured, mixed-use cityscape that could inspire citizens and visitors to truly gather and interact. Under the proposal, Columbia's focus would shift from the mall to an adjacent market square with a landscaped promenade leading to a new woodland park area and Merriweather. A second promenade would break off from that main corridor and lead to the lakefront in a zig-zagging, garden-like series of paths. The promenades would be fianked by city-style street shopping on ground ievel. On upper fioors, there could be residential units, offices, hotel space or conference center space. The tree-Hned gateway could also feature outdoor sculptures, parks and museums, including one that could honor Rouse's historical role in reshaping small towns. The parking lot that exists on the site of the planned market square would be buried underneath. The market square itself could change with the seasons into a farmer's market, performance area, fountain Or ice-skating rink. The new center would be connected to Howard County General Hospital, Howard Community College and some of Columbia's other neighborhoods through Hghted, t\rvo:\f'!ay paths 'v\lith benches. Bus routes would be added, including a shuttle service that would circle the downtown area, eliminating the need to drive from spot to spot once parked. GGP has also proposed reworking the storm water management system and making some of it into rain garden art. Other proposed environmental features include green roofs and solar arrays. Construction could start on the market square as early as 2010. Businesses have been impressed with the plans so far. "We fell that it really exceeded our expectations," said Pamela J. Klahr, president of the Howard County Chamber of Commerce. Project organizers have met with community leaders and residents in dozens of meetings to gather input and explain the rough draft version of the plan. GGP officials have said they hope to use what the community has asked for as a basis for creating a new urban core that would more closely match what Rouse once planned. "The plan ... is really the community's plan," Hamm said in an April 28 meeting to discuss GGP's proposai. Hamm is overseeing the project for GGP. "The designers will serve as the editors and the publishers, but really the community will remain the authors of what goes on here." Original sketches for Columbia's downtown showed buses traveling around the mall and intersections bustling with pedestrians. Rouse envisioned and bullt Columbia as a place where people of all incomes and races could live and a place that would encourage interaction. He enlisted experts from various fields to help plan the new lown. Then he sold the idea to Howard County residents through a series of meetings with public officials and citizens. While a sense of community has flourished somewhat in Columbia's nine outlvinq villaqes - which were designed around Village centers and park areas that people could waik to, shop at and-gather at - the town center has not produced a similar feeling. Many residents and planners have criticized the town for its spread- out buildings that make driving a necessity. \^/hi!e Co!:...:mbi3 beg2il 41 years ago '.:...ith a planned approach, Jater years brought piecemeal developrnent that http://www.rnddailyrecord.com/article.c:fin?id=5541&type=UTTM 6/4/2008 Maryland Daily Record Page 2 of2 added strip malls and big-box stores and did nothing to add to Columbia's sense of community. "[Columbia] was never completed. It was never the city that Jim envisioned. Indeed if he were around now, he would be doing what is being proposed," said Jaquelin T. Robertson, who knew Rouse and is a founding partner of New York architecture and urban design firm Cooper, Robertson & Partners. In a move harkening back to Rouse, GGP has drawn from world-renowned architects, cultural planners and environmental talents to help plan the downtown space. Analysts on the project like Robertson have helped work on Baltimore's Inner Harbor, the Sept. 11 Memorial in New York, Disney's Celebration town in Florida, and the Guggenheim Museum in Bilbao, Spain. The size of the names associated with the project match its costs. The redevelopment could cost from $3.25 billion to $5.2 billion, using industry estimates on the cost of high-grade, mixed-use development. GGP officials have said that financing effort would require some kind of private-public partnership. While they haven't released a detailed financing plan, they have suggested a special tax district could devote new tax revenues toward project costs. Community residents have largely welcomed the proposal so far. "I do think you've done a nice job with tying the mall to Merriweather and the lakefront," said Andy Stack, a member of the Owen Brown Village Board, during a meeting held by GGP in the Owen Brown neighborhood. Stack's wife, Diane, favored the proposal of adding paths. "I like the walkability" of the plan, said Diane Stack. The first phase of development, which includes building the market square and the promenades to the lake and Merriweather, could be done in 18 to 24 months, according to GGP officials. But GGP has yet to release a detailed plan that would include all the phases of development, including where and when new residential deveiopment could begin. Many citizens have anxiously awaited the details to see if the proposal would adequately account for increases to traffic and public services that 5,500 new residential units would add. GGP has said it would distribute a more concrete plan in June - around the time it would ask the county for zoning changes. "They got most of the values right. But in many ways it was like, 'We want mom and apple pie, and who can object?' But of course the devil is in the details. And GGP is left creating the details," Klein said. One of the hurdles before GGP is gathering the rights to develop on land the company does not own. The Columbia Association, Columbia's homeowners' group, controls large parcels of land where GGP has proposed development. The association's preSident said her group has welcomed the inclusiveness GGP has shown so far in listening to residents. But it hasn't signed off on anything yet. "At this time, the public is processing all of the information they have received. They are fonming their thoughts and responses to the plan as they learn more about it," said Columbia Association President Maggie Brown. Klein said experience with the later development in Columbia has made many residents wonder if grand plans, like the one GGP has proposed, will come to fruition. Many of the ills of Columbia's development came after Rouse retired somewhat from the project. While his group is optimistic based on its interactions with Hamm, Klein said he would look for safeguards in a detailed proposal that would hold developers to milestones. "One of the lessons we leamed in the last 40 years is \,ve need to have a vision that is not dependent on one person," he said. http://www.mddailyrecord.com/article.cfm?id=5541&type=UTTM 6/412008 toledoblade.com -- Toledo sends TPS new proposal on Marina District plan Page 1 of3 Wednesday, June 04, 2008 LjFOG 630 Hllmidity: HHl % more weather Keyword search; QwikNav ; Archive search 'I IIIiI F last 30 days search; .T II. 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" Lucas County >> Odd News The district also would begin to receive income from property taxes on the land 'Opinion values exclusive of improvements. Sports Business Robert Reinbolt, ~v~ayor Carty Finkbeiner's chief of staff, in a lettei to Mr. Foley Arts/Entertainment said "TPS should be mindful that the city of Toledo has expended more than $15 million" toward the project and "TPS has had to invest neither money nor effort." 81ade 810gs Coh.Htmists http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ article? AID=/20080604/NEWS 16/806040449 6/4/2008 toledoblade.com -- Toledo sends TPS new proposal on Marina District plan Page 2 of3 Neighbors Also during last night's council meeting, Councilman D. Michael Collins revived a M$ by c.oogle Obituaries battle with Mr. Finkbeiner that he had appeared to win in April. 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Page 1 of 4 June 4, 2008 L.ooin or register Classified Advertise Development bill to be aired again Jobs Cars By Larry Carson I Sun reporter Real Estate June 4, 2008 Apartments Celebrations Boats County residents will get another chance this month to testify on Personals a proposal to double the number of new housing units allowed [2J E-mail Pets annually for projects along the U.S. 1 corridor. Grocery Coupons Share At a meeting marked by delays and confusion over procedure, @, Print Weather the County Council voted Monday to table the bill. But the council Traffic also voted to allow more public testimony on the measure, as well as a series of amendments, at its monthly public hearing June 16. News Normally, tabled bills are not subject to further public testimony. Maryland County Executive Ken Ulman proposed the bill, which would Baltimore City speed redevelopment in the U.S. 1 corridor, from Interstste 95 Anne Arundel east to the Anne Arundel County line. The measure seeks to double the number of new Baltimore Co, residential units that can be approved each year in the corridor from 250 to 500 by Carroll "borrowing" from future allotments. Howard uses a system of annual housing allocations Harford to limit grovJth to no more than 1,850 units approved each yeai countywide. Hov;lard Crime Traffic The bill is intended to aid large projects such as the Savage MARC train station mixed- Politics use community and the redevelopment of the Aladdin Mobile Home Park that likely Education would face long delays under the current laws. BRAC Eastern Shore But the bill has raised objections Bay & Environment Related links from civic groups and Elkridge Sports residents worried about crowded schools and roads. Lifestyle The Monday council meeting began Business nearly a half-hour late as members conferred individually with county Opinion lawyers and planning officials over Blogs procedural issues. Sirrlilar questions forced another 15-minute recess Travel later in the session. Shopping Courtney Watson Discussion took several twists, with members voting on one amendment Partner Sites but not several others. One member tv1etromix abstained on the amendment, then bH18site.Gorn moved to table the bili, while Explore Howard another complained that voting on Resources only one of the amendments was Print Edition unfair. V-..jireless Edition RSS Feeds Before tabling the bill on a motion by i"Jev/s!ettersiAierts FUlton Republican Greg Fox, the Archives council approved an amendment Topic Galleries Greg Fox from council Chairwoman Courtney Site Map Watson, anElliQQttCit)'-Elkridge Services Democrat, to exclude most of Subscriber Services Elkridge from the bill. rvledi8 Kit Reader Rewards Watson said her amendment to remove everything north of Route 100 was intended to Sun Store protect Elkridge from over-development. Contests Special Sections Calvin Ball, an east Columbia Democrat who also represents a slice of Elkridge, then Fifty Pius proposed moving that dividing line north a half-mile to coincide with the council district Advertise boundary betvleen Vv'atsonls District 1 and his District 2. That \vas approved on a 4-0 Soeakers' Bureau FAGs vote, with Fox abstaining. It would allow owners of the Troy Hill Corporate Center, the Contact Us Route 100 Industrial Park, and the Belmont Station townhouse community to get more housing allocations if the bill is approved July 7 "I'm very satisfied they decided to table this," said .t1oward Johnson, Greater Eikridge Community Association, who watched from the Coverage of neighborhood, sports and Fox, who said he abstained partly out of confusion over procedure, mO>/itllrt;!ilalli:fllt news in Howard County the bill. That passed on a 3-1 vote with Watson abstaining and Jen a North laurer-Savage Democrat in opposition, Recent news Columbia man ofeads auiltv to beina accessorv in http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/howard/bal-ho. counci104j un04, 0,3141412. story 6/412008 Development bill to be aired again -- Government, Howard Johnson, Anne Arundel Coun... Page 2 of4 killing Missing autistic teen found Ads by Google T errasa said laterGill8'riill\iilil7tlfi!l.ll<-iild sentenced to 55 years fair that the coun~3ifl/ifA6llllther Watson's amendrsllR6&wt no others. Ball said his boundary change was to provide U.S. 1 than to help a developer. Terrasa and Ulman, had amendment to have the extra they paid a to the cou nty prepared an a to limit the extr mixed-use proj ,. developments residential. Grace KUbOfCikt~m;~~~~~ t~ d League of Wom 0 e .s, s I 1ier e s HOMES SHOP group pushed hardJt68flave theC~fff tabled and subjected to more discussion. She also criticized the T errasa-Ball amendment to require cash or land in return for extra allocations. "That almost reeks of seliing housing aliocations," she said. Other Features Terrasa later countered that a payment from developers would help public services more quickly in response to faster development law. Fox said he had no ulterior motive in voting to table the bill after Wats~n's am~nt fle$idemlal optiGn$fllr me I passed, rather than before it was voted on. Watson said she was satisfied at the result. .lUl.!.I....1I1l.1U~.~W~tt. Featured Video Advertisers LOOAl JOBS if all that wasn't confusing enough, county lawyers told council membet~Jr.fiM~~JillR rr;Jm(~&f88:1'rmHrl~f still reconsider Watson's amendment in July, despite having approved A~milil,t,. Health and Fitness Center Jan:Y.G?r3>On@I::>?J!Swn..com . Ryland Homes STOi'JE More articles ChEF Related topic galleries: Government. National Government, Howard Local Authority Get home deHvery of The Sun and save over 50% off the p~tmii1ster woman sentenced in contract killing plan Copyright@ 2008, The Baltimore- Sun HarborView plans reignite debate Going BRAG and forth More most viewed Ads by Goog Ie http://www. baltimoresun.com/news/local/howard/bal- ho.counciI04jun04,0,3141412.story 6/4/2008 Suffolk Life Newspapers - Tallgrass Developers Intend To Press On Page 1 of2 5 Day Forecast Fog 610 Top Stol-ies Riverhead Wednesday, June 04 news search Top Stories Local News Babylon 8St'L,lOQ.e,tse,m;h Brookhaven Huntington Islip Forman Riverhead email delivei-y Smithtown BEm"iIJQi1JrienQ @ E'os;i1CQmmQol @. Pri01QL:trieodiy Get the news Southampton sent to your Inbox Southold The developers of the Tallgrass project at the DeLalio Sod Farm in Shoreham are not going to let the Central Pine Barrens Commission decision stop their Willmotts and 'Nhy Nots plans. Two weeks ago, the commission denied the developers - Ornstein Point Of View Ley ton Company and Barnet Holdings - a hardship exemption. But developer Letters To The Editor Alec Ornstein, who called the resolution "the wrong decision for the community," said that "right nO'N \A/e're deciding ifvJe should abandon the This Week [Planned Development District] and build single-family homes or abandon the Upper Half golf course and do the PDD as planned." Outdoor Comer As previously reported in Parents Ufe Suffolk Life, Brookhaven Health Lite Town approved a POD so Our Story that Tallgrass developers could construct 352 and Games mixed housing units and 125,000 square feet of commercial space at the Contact site. While some Classifieds residents have criticized Obituaries the project, officials have argued that, if the town hadn't reached a compiomise, the developers could have built 283 single-family units on the site, which would have placed a heavier burden on the school district. Another issue with the project was what would become of the existing golf course. While developers expressed interest in keeping the golf course open, they ran into problems with the amount of open space that is required to be preserved, since the development is located within the Central Pine Barrens. As previously reported, the developers applied for a hardship exemption with the Central Pine Barrens Commission. In addition, Ornstein also hoped the 91-acre golf course would be considered as open space. However, on ~.~ay 21, the Central Pine Barrens Commission voted 4~1 against the Ta!!grass project as it stands nO\^1 - a mixed~use development project consisting of 352 single-family and detached residential units, a 125,000-square-foot community recreation center, and the "retention and reconfiguration of the Tallgrass Golf Course with a 9,197 -square-foot clubhouse," according to the resolution. "There is no reason for us to scale down the project," Ornstein said. "The golf course was not the most important part of the development to us. It's important to the community, because of the sales tax revenue and the jobs, and that's why we're disappointed in the Pine Barrens Commission's deciSion. But we're going to be http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfin?newsid=19745177 &BRD=1776&P AG=46 1 &dept_id... 6/412008 Suffolk Life Newspapers - Tallgrass Developers Intend To Press On Page 2 of2 meeting with our partners and lenders and we will be making a decision soon." The commission stated that it rejected the project because it wasn't in compliance with the Central Pine Barrens Comprehensive Land Use Plan. In this case, officials stated that Tallgrass must have 151 contiguous acres of open space, based on the size of the parcel. Right now the T allgrass golf club and the DeLalio Sod Farm take up 320 acres and the developers already own the golf course and are in contract on the sod farm. The present Tallgrass plans allow for only 40.87 acres of open space. This is why they applied for a hardship exemption, which would have allowed the developers to keep the golf course open. As for the developers' request that the golf course be considered open space, Ray Corwin, executive director of the Central Pine Barrens Commission, stated that "active recreational areas do not count toward open space." The Central Pine Barrens Commission is comprised of five members: Department of Environmental Conservation Regional Director Peter Scully, the county executive, and the town supervisors of Brookhaven, Southold and Riverhead. Only Brookhaven Town Supervisor Brian Foley voted to give the developers their hardship exemption. Lori Baldassare, Foley's chief of staff, said that Foley has "long advocated leaving the golf course intact. He wanted to keep the recreational component as well as the tax base for the community. That was his goal. That's why he voted for the original change of zone from residential to POD, and that's why he voted for the hardship exemption. The probiem now is that all options have been given back to the developers," she added. "They can eliminate the golf course or they can reduce the project and keep the golf course... We don't know what they will do." Upon hearing that the developers would not consider scaling back their project, Brookhaven Town Second District Councilwoman Jane Bonner responded, "I'm surprised but not surprised ... Mr. Ornstein's blatant disregard for the community is what's been wrong with this project all along. I am not anti-development, but this development is not right for this community. The [Shoreham-Wading River] school budget being defeated proves that. The only thing Mr. Ornstein's invested in this community is his wallet. He doesn't live here, his children don't go to school here. He really needs to go back to the drawing board and reach out to the community." "All single-family homes would be the worst tax scenario here," added Suffolk County Legislator Dan Losquadro (R-Mount Sinai). "But the mixed-use proposal that they put forth wasn't a good one. I'm still in favor of a mixed-used project of some sort. The devil is in the details ... We'll have to see what the developers have in mind." In the meantime, a local community action group, Citizens Against the Tallgrass POD, are still awaiting a decision on a lawsuit they filed on February 15 against the town of Brookhaven, challenging the town's decision to rezone the proposed Tallgrass project from residential to a POD. "When people own property, they are allowed to develop it within the limitations of the area," said Christine Zukowski, director of Citizens Against the Tallgrass POD. "When Ornstein bought the land he knew it was in the Centra! Pine Barrens. He doesn't have single-family zoning anymore so he can't build sing!e-family houses without changing the zoning back again. And if he lets the golf course go fallow, that might not be enough to satisfy the Pine Barrens Commission's requirements for open space. He thinks he can do what he wants. But it ain't happening." Ufe Ne\vspapers 2008 D _f;,!J28..lJJQu9....frj,f,_r.Jd @] Q Eri.tJ.tenC::[rlBUO,ty -1'- Questions or cornrrlents? Emaii the 'vi/ebmaster. Copyright@ 1995 - 2003 Townnews,com r\e~e! veu. http:/ /www.zwire.com/site/news.cfin?newsid=19745l77 &BRD=1776&P AG=461 &dept_id... 6/4/2008