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HomeMy WebLinkAbout08-19-2014 call to order KL ARTR C400 O636 pledge PLJ P420 roll - all 5 RL AL R400 A400 Public Participation PPLK PRTSPX P142 P632 John Walsh CEO of the Port Presentation JN ALX PRT PRSNTX J500 W420 P630 P625 Item #1 ATM I350 passed 5-0 PST P230 Item #7 sign ordinance, 1st reading ATM SN ARTNNS ST RTNK I350 S500 O635 S300 R520 T. Morley stood at the podium MRL STT PTM M640 S330 P350 Council Member Walsh KNSL MMPR ALX C524 M560 W420 B. Petsos PTSS P322 Council decided to have the Public Hearing first KNSL TSTT HF PPLK HRNK FRST C524 D233 H100 P142 H520 F623 CM recognizes this is an issue RKNSS 0S AS R252 T200 I200 Rebecca Rowe RPK R120 closed Public Hearing KLST PPLK HRNK C423 P142 H520 CA comments KMNTS C553 Motion by bp and bh MXN ANT M350 A530 #8 Ord. No. 09-2014 ART O630 Mayor explained more MR AKSPLN M600 E214 Mayor opened the PH MR APNT M600 O153 Mayor shared more information MR XRT ANFRMX M600 S300 I516 Suzanne Elliot SSN ALT S250 E430 Closed PH KLST C423 Patricia Petty of Cape Canaveral PTRS PT KP KNFRL P362 P300 C100 C516 more discussion cont MR TSKSN KNT M600 D225 C530 mot to approve bP with 2 recom changes BH 2nd MT APRF A0 RKM XNJS NT M300 A160 W300 R250 C522 N300 passed 5-0 with 2 amendments PST A0 AMNTMN P230 W300 A553 #9 Approve MOA and Ord. No 10-2014 APRF ANT ART A160 A530 O630 Public Hearing PPLK HRNK P142 H520 closed ph KLST C423 mot to approve both MOA JB and 2nd BW MT APRF P0 ANT NT M300 A160 B300 A530 N300 Reports RPRTS R163 Rebecca Rowe of Cape Shores spoke regarding trees, maritime oaks that have survived tropical storms and hurricanes; concerned about plans to remove old oaks for new development Eric Braga spoke regarding Cape Shores concerns and proposed development to Cape Shores and possible pollution, crime, etc...this would bring to the area; a tenth gas station is not needed; oppose the 16 pumps and gathering signatures for petition Jay Petty resident of Cape Canaveral and owner at Cape Shores spoke of concerns regarding water flow at the lagoon and environmental concern Mayor explained the process going forward with the Cumberland Farms development Mr. Petty requested explanation of "compatability" issue Gary S explained why trees are marked for site plan RPK KP XRS SPK RKRTNK TRS MRTM AKS 0T HF SRFFT TRPKL STRMS ANT HRKNS KNSRNT APT PLNS RMF ALT FR TFLPMN ARK PRK KNSRNS PRPST PSPL PLXN KRM ATK 0S PRNK AR TN0 KS STXN NT NTT APS PMPS K0RNK SNTRS PTXN PT RSTNT KNFRL ANR ATR FL LKN ANFRNM KNSRN MR AKSPLN PRSS KNK FRRT A0 KMRLNT FRMS RKSTT KMPTPL AS KR MRKT ST PLN R120 C100 S200 S120 R263 T620 M635 O220 T300 H100 S611 T612 S365 A530 H652 C526 A130 P452 R510 O430 F600 D141 E620 B620 P612 P214 P450 C650 E320 T200 W430 B652 A600 T530 G200 S335 N300 O100 P520 G352 S536 P335 P300 R235 C516 O600 W360 F400 L250 E516 M600 E214 P622 G520 F663 W300 C564 F652 R223 C513 I200 G600 M623 S300 mini version of the State of the Port MN FRSN STT PRT M500 V625 S330 P630 mot bp bh 2nd MT NT M300 N300 Mayor requested CA to read the title of the Ord. Mayor explained how long Staff has been working on the Sign Ordinance; mentioned pylon and electronic signs; snipe signs; turned over to Council on how to handle MR RKSTT RT TTL ART AKSPLN LNK STF HS PN ARKNK SN ARTNNS MNXNT PLN ANT ALKTRN SNS SNP TRNT AFR KNSL HNTL M600 R223 R300 T340 O630 E214 L520 S310 H200 B500 W625 S500 O635 M533 P450 A530 E423 S520 S510 T653 O160 C524 H534 Council Member Bond asked questions request from J. Bond to place limited max size of electronic sign sea turtles and signs hand held signs and how close to the lane of traffic can they be?; CA responded he would have to look at the code to see that it already exists regarding to safety and distraction; CA explained some cities are trying to address the people holding signs for businesses; portable signs/temporary signs - TM said no minimums on appearance what constitutes signage? - is a towel a sign? - TM read the definition from the code KNSL MMPR PNT ASKT KSXNS RKST FRM PLS LMTT MKS SS ALKTRN SN TRTLS ANT SNS HNT HLT KLS LN TRFK KN RSPNTT ALT HF LK KT 0T ALRT AKSSTS RKRTNK SFT TSTRKX AKSPLN SM STS AR TRNK ATRS PPL HLTNK FR PSNSS PRTPL TMPRR ST MNMMS APRNS AT KNSTTT SNJ TL RT TFNXN C524 M560 B530 A230 Q235 R223 F650 P420 L533 M200 S200 E423 S500 T634 A530 S520 H530 H430 C420 L500 T612 C500 R215 W430 H100 L200 C300 T300 A460 E223 R263 S130 D236 E214 C320 A600 T652 A362 P140 H435 F600 B252 P631 T516 S300 M555 A150 W300 C523 T400 R300 D153 maximum foot for signage in 2009? TM explained how the Code came to 20ft for electronic signs MKSMM FT FR SNJ AKSPLN KT KM ALKTRN SNS M255 F300 F600 S520 E214 C300 C500 E423 commended Staff on the sign code ordinance asked to expound on window signage CM stated he was certain it would come up during the Public Hearing portion KMNTT STF SN KT ARTNNS ASKT AKSPNT ANT SNJ STTT AS SRTN ALT KM TRNK PPLK HRNK PRXN C553 S310 S500 C300 O635 A230 E215 W530 S520 S333 W200 C635 W430 C500 D652 P142 H520 P635 Attorney Kim Rezanka addressed the Council representing Xtreme Fun, LLC spoke how a towel or surf board is a sign and is still in question still ambiguaties and confusion on definition of sign overlay district "unless permitted in window or display area" so many definitions of signs and wall signs would like to clear up between now and second reading ATRN KM RSNK ATRST KNSL RPRSNT STRM FN LK SPK TL SRF PRT SN ANT STL KSXN AMPKTS KNFSN TFNXN AFRL TSTRKT ANLS PRMTT TSPL AR MN TFNXNS SNS AL ALT KLR PTN SKNT RTNK A365 K500 R252 A362 C524 R162 X365 F500 L200 S120 T400 S610 B630 S500 A530 S340 Q235 A522 C512 D153 O164 D236 U542 P653 W530 D214 A600 M500 S520 W400 W430 C460 B350 S253 R520 and will sit down with Ms. Rezanka and client before now and second reading CM suggested to go on with the Public Hearing and will address individual issues raised.. ANT AL ST TN A0 RSNK KLNT PFR SKNT RTNK SKSTT PPLK HRNK ATRS ANTFTL ASS RST A530 W400 S300 D500 W300 R252 C453 B160 S253 R520 S223 P142 H520 A362 I531 I220 R300 asked about political signs and not being removed after elections Mayor explained they have to be remove within 5 days after the elections ASKT APT PLTKL SNS ANT NT PNK RMFT AFTR ALKXNS MR AKSPLN HF RMF A0N TS A230 A130 P432 S520 A530 N300 B520 R513 A136 E423 M600 E214 H100 R510 W350 D200 on first reading likely be tech changes between 1st and 2nd hearing; with respect to issue raised by Atty Rezanka and window signange and inner relationship with the existing sign code, in district - window transparancy, there are general rules that apply re window signs - city has permitted __________ for years - her client has had window signs and displays for sometime - under current code it is cumbersome to add up area of window sign currently on the books; under district regs the visable attractiveness is encouraged, looked at provision and wrote was is being proposed on page 18 of the Code - rationale 3ft wide 15ft height, business would be ab le to display with two caveats could not attachd___________ #2 would not be able to block the v iew inside the building for security reason for exampe the cash register and law enforcement - intended to be a flexibility within that defifned space Now the def of sign has always intended to be broad - intended to attract people, visible from right of ways, etc.. - not an issue if in the display area Council discussion ensued and included figure out how far back from the window the display has to be to not violate - CA responded if its not attached the 25% rule does not come in to play the way it is currently drafted; find common ground but the current code encourages window display the way towels are displayed CA - enforcement would be difficult how far away from window was discussed 25% cannot be attached to glass CM further explained how this Ord came in to - reasonable compromises made with bus. owner CA would be happty to talk to Atty Rezanka and staff to make tech CM would show up in agenda sheet to show full transparancy and disclosure FRST RTNK LKL TK XNJS PTN ST ANT NT HRNK A0 RSPKT AS RST AT RSNK SNNJ ANR RLXNXP AKSSTN SN KT TSTRKT TRNSPR 0R AR JNRL RLS 0T APL SNS HS PRMTT FR ARS HR KLNT HT TSPLS SMTM ANTR KRNT KMRSM KRNTL PKS RKS FSPL ATRKTF ANKRJT LKT PRFSN RT PNK PRPST PJ RXNL FT PSNS ALT TSPL KFTS KLT ATKT PLK ANST PLTNK SKRT RSN AKSMP KX RJSTR ANFRSM ANTNTT FLKSPL A0N TFFNT SPS TF ALS PRT ATRKT PPL FRM ATK KNSL TSKSN ANKLTT FKR PK FLT RSPNTT ATS ATXT RL TS KM PL TRFTT FNT KMN PT ANKRJS TLS TSPLT TFKLT TSKST KNT KLS FR0R AKSPLN 0S ART RSNPL KMPRMS MT PS HPT TLK STF MK AJNT XT FL TSKSR F623 R520 L240 T200 C522 B350 S300 A530 N300 H520 W300 R212 I200 R300 A300 R252 W530 S552 I560 R435 E223 S500 C300 D236 T652 A600 G564 R420 T300 A140 S520 H200 P653 F600 Y620 H600 C453 H300 D214 S535 U536 C653 C562 B220 R200 V214 A362 E522 L300 P612 W630 W200 B520 P200 R340 F300 B252 W430 C132 C430 A330 B420 I523 B435 S263 R500 E251 C200 R223 E516 I535 F421 W350 D115 S120 D100 A420 B630 P140 F650 E320 C524 D225 E523 I524 F260 O300 B200 V300 R215 I320 R400 D200 C500 P400 D613 F530 C550 G653 B300 T420 D143 D223 C530 G420 F636 E214 O630 R510 C516 M300 O600 H130 S310 M200 A253 F400 D246 CA read the title; CA said a statewide ref coming up in the State of Fl in nove, if passes by 60% the State will be enacting the sale or marijuana at medical dist site; some communities trying to get out in front before nov, chosed to adopt contingent zoning codes and operational requirements; this City's Ord would be contingent upon the passing of the refernendum - somewhat related issue to pain management clinics. RT TTL ST STTT RF KMNK STT NF PSS AL ANKTNK SL MRJN MTKL TST SM KMNTS TRNK KT AT FRNT PFR XST ATPT KNTNJN SNNK KTS ANT APRXNL RKRMNT 0S ART ALT APN PSNK RFRNNT SMT RLTT AS PN MNJMNT KLNKS R300 T340 S300 S330 R100 C552 N100 P220 W400 E523 S400 M620 M324 D230 S500 C553 T652 G300 O300 F653 B160 C300 A313 C535 Z552 C320 A530 O163 R255 T200 O630 W430 U150 P252 R165 S530 R433 I200 P500 M525 C452 about the Medical Mar amendment and tonight's ordinance APT MTKL MR AMNTMN ANT TNT ARTNNS A130 M324 M600 A553 A530 T530 O635 Jay Petty asked if the City has to provide if the State referendum passes? CA responded if it is inserted into the State Constit - would make it very difficult for City to prohibit - many issues related and cited Federal law why is it not prescribed by a doctor already if its for medical purposes? CA encouraged researching the issue; revenue source Eric Braga - with these ordinances certain footage away from schools; yes ...locations in CA were in proximity of elementary schools PT ASKT ST HS PRFT STT RFRNTM PSS RSPNTT ANSRTT ANT KNSTT ALT MK FR TFKLT PRHPT MN ASS RLTT FTRL NT PRSKPT TKTR ALRT ATS MTKL PRPSS ANKRJT RSRXNK AS RFN SRS ARK PRK A0 0S ARTNNS SRTN FTJ FRM SKLS LKXNS AR PRKSMT ALMNTR P300 A230 C300 H200 P613 S330 R165 P220 R215 I526 I530 C523 W430 M200 V600 D143 F600 P630 M500 I220 R433 A530 C330 F364 N300 P626 D236 A460 I320 M324 P612 E522 R262 I200 R150 S620 E620 B620 W300 O635 C635 F200 F650 S420 Y200 L235 W600 P625 E455 regarding the Ord. details and prohibited items RKRTNK ART TTLS ANT PRHPTT ATMS R263 O630 D342 A530 P630 I352 has lived in CC for 25 years limitation of how many can be in the City? Mayor said with the size of the City it would be limited. HS LFT FR ARS LMTXN MN KN ST MR A0 SS ALT LMTT H200 L130 F600 Y620 L533 M500 C500 C300 M600 S300 W300 S200 W430 Council input: discussion ensued and included the fact that the city onbly a l; requirement #3 - please add places of worship Dave Dicky gave insight - issue came up at the P&Z meeting last month; Asst. CA was uncomfortable with included becasue of sep of Church & State issue. CM - if church had daycare than the prohibition would come into play BH again wanted to add the language to include places of worship CA - will go back and look at the issue between now and 2nd reading; Courts don't really delve into the definition of place of worship - Add to ord now or later and put in at 2nd reading CA - would modify the section and insert terminology consistently BP - assumed Churches were in there and supports putting language in there BW - why isn't it more than 1000 ft? CA - responded other Cities are much larger than CC and thought this was reasonable bounds BW - food produced - add food products to line item - page 3 under def 110-1 CA - language taken right out of proposed constitutional amendment; if this passes Council will likely be revisiting the issue again BW - permitted conditional use vs special exception CA - historical nomenclature - more modern is conditional use JB - believes certain amont of people need the med marj; having said that he sees huge problems if the amendment passes; websites out there regarding how to teach people to doctor shop and pass themselves off as needing the marijuana when they really don't; doing everything they can to turn us into Colorado; Can we prevent any growhouses? DD - P&Z discussed this too; language in Const. Amend would preclude; my understanding on a very large industrial/corporate scale JB - introduced the Major - suspicious prescriptions Major - currently dealing with that now Mayor - scanned CB ordinance and its mention of the CRA area CA - the issue cannot be an effective preclusion of that use - effective preclusion is unlawful, defers to the Planning Dept to avoid that BW - Sat hours - change to 9-noon on Saturdays? CM - Council can do that; try to objectively deal in a fair and balanced way and that's what drives what we present to you all - can do that - from overall point of view trying to push the env as reasonably far to the edge as we feel comfortable and beyond that may be unnecessary risk - Consensus to change to Noon. KNSL ANPT TSKSN ANST ANT ANKLTT FKT 0T ST ANPL RKRMNT PLS AT PLSS ARXP TF TK KF AS KM MTNK LST MN0 AST ANKMFR A0 PKS SP XRX STT HT TKR 0N PRHPXN ALT PL AKN ANTT LNKJ ANKLT AL PK LK PTN NT RTNK KRTS TN RL TLF TFNXN ART LTR PT MTF SKXN ANSRT TRMNLJ KNSSTN ASMT XRXS AR 0R SPRTS PTNK ASN MR RSPNTT A0R STS MK LRKR 0S RSNPL PNTS FT PRTST PRTKTS LN ATM PJ ANTR TKN RT PRPST KNSTTX AMNTMN PSS LKL RFSTNK PRMTT KNTXNL SPSL AKSPXN HSTRKL NMNKLT MTRN PLFS SRTN AMNT PPL MT MRJ HFNK SS HJ PRPLMS APSTS RKRTNK TKTR XP PS 0MSLFS AF NTNK MRJN AN TNK AFR0NK KN TRN KLRT PRFNT KRSS TSKST KNST PRKLT ANTRST FR LRJ ANTSTR KRPRT SKL ANTRTS MJR SSPSS PRSKPX KRNTL TLNK SKNT ARTNNS ATS MNXN KR KNT AFKTF PRKLSN ANLFL TFRS PLNNK TPT AFT HRS XNJ NN STRTS TR APJKTF TL PLNST TRFS PRSNT FRM AFRL PNT TRNK PX ANF AJ FL KMFRTP ANSSR RSK KNSNSS C524 I513 D225 E523 A530 I524 F230 T300 C300 O514 R255 P400 A300 P422 W621 D100 D200 G100 I523 I200 C500 M520 L230 M530 A230 W200 U525 W300 B220 S100 C620 S330 H300 D600 T500 P650 W430 I530 A250 W533 L520 W400 B200 L200 B350 N300 R520 C632 D500 R440 D410 D153 P420 O630 L360 P300 M310 S235 I526 T655 C522 C622 W600 S163 P352 I250 M600 R215 O360 C320 A600 M200 L626 T200 R510 B532 F300 P632 L500 I350 P200 U536 T250 R300 O300 P612 C523 A553 P220 L240 R123 P653 C533 U200 S124 E213 H236 N552 M365 B420 C635 P140 M300 M620 H152 S300 S200 H200 P614 W123 R263 D236 T524 O100 N520 W500 D520 E163 T650 C463 P615 A500 G620 D223 P624 V600 L620 I532 C616 I536 M260 S212 P626 C653 S553 O635 I320 M535 C600 C530 E123 U544 D162 P455 D130 A130 H620 C520 N500 S363 T600 O122 D400 F600 B452 D612 P625 A400 F650 O164 P530 T652 E510 E200 F400 C516 B530 U526 R200 C525 should fall under same hours as doctors hours monday-friday. nothing on Sat or half a day on Sat BH - will be an establishment that specifally deals XLT FL ANTR SM HRS TKTRS MNT FRT N0NK ST HLF AL ASTPLX 0T SPSFL TLS S430 F400 U536 S500 H620 D236 M530 F630 N352 S300 H410 W400 E231 T300 S121 D420 guidelines for the City's until after the Nov election why not be more strict now and change it later KTLNS FR ST ANTL AFTR NF ALKXN NT MR STRKT ANT XNJ LTR G452 F600 C300 U534 A136 N100 E423 N300 M600 S362 A530 C520 L360 add church and change hours AT XRX ANT XNJ HRS A300 C620 A530 C520 H620 CA read title into the record; there is history regarding the 20ft strip - the MOA property owner has signed the MOa to take title to the strip if Council approves Ord. Mayor explained the history about how City used to give land away without an Ord. and explained History of the the item. RT TTL ANT RKRT 0R HSTR RKRTNK FT STRP PRPRT ANR HS SNT TK KNSL APRFS ART MR AKSPLN APT ST AST JF LNT A0T ATM R300 T340 I530 R263 H236 F300 S361 P616 O600 H200 S530 T200 C524 A162 O630 M600 E214 A130 C300 U230 G100 L530 W330 A530 I350 passed 5-0 PST P230 JB - thanks for work from CM and Staff for enormous amounts of hours esp Sign Code BW - spoken to people not getting feedback from people who have put in applications for Boards - CM shall be done. BP - spoke about Cape View and students above; Cocoa Beach students; BH - pass RR - complimented Gustavo Vergara regarding 11 Weeks of Summer Camp with no problems. 0NKS FR ARK FRM ANT STF ANRMS AMNTS HRS ASP SN KT SPKN PPL NT KTNK FTPK HF PT APLKXN PRTS XL TN SPK APT KP STTNTS APF KK PK PS KMPLMN KSTF FRKR RKRTNK AKS SMR KMP A0 PRPLMS T522 F600 W620 F650 A530 S310 E565 A553 H620 E210 S500 C300 S125 P140 N300 G352 F312 H100 P300 A143 B632 S440 D500 S120 A130 C100 S335 A110 C200 P200 C514 G231 V626 R263 W220 S560 C510 W300 P614 call to order KL ARTR C400 O636 pledge PLJ P420 roll - all 5 RL AL R400 A400 Public Participation PPLK PRTSPX P142 P632 John Walsh CEO of the Port Presentation JN ALX PRT PRSNTX J500 W420 P630 P625 Item #1 ATM I350 passed 5-0 PST P230 Item #7 sign ordinance, 1st reading ATM SN ARTNNS ST RTNK I350 S500 O635 S300 R520 T. Morley stood at the podium MRL STT PTM M640 S330 P350 Council Member Walsh KNSL MMPR ALX C524 M560 W420 B. Petsos PTSS P322 Council decided to have the Public Hearing first KNSL TSTT HF PPLK HRNK FRST C524 D233 H100 P142 H520 F623 CM recognizes this is an issue RKNSS 0S AS R252 T200 I200 Rebecca Rowe RPK R120 closed Public Hearing KLST PPLK HRNK C423 P142 H520 CA comments KMNTS C553 Motion by bp and bh MXN ANT M350 A530 #8 Ord. No. 09-2014 ART O630 Mayor explained more MR AKSPLN M600 E214 Mayor opened the PH MR APNT M600 O153 Mayor shared more information MR XRT ANFRMX M600 S300 I516 Suzanne Elliot SSN ALT S250 E430 Closed PH KLST C423 Patricia Petty of Cape Canaveral PTRS PT KP KNFRL P362 P300 C100 C516 more discussion cont MR TSKSN KNT M600 D225 C530 mot to approve bP with 2 recom changes BH 2nd MT APRF A0 RKM XNJS NT M300 A160 W300 R250 C522 N300 passed 5-0 with 2 amendments PST A0 AMNTMN P230 W300 A553 #9 Approve MOA and Ord. No 10-2014 APRF ANT ART A160 A530 O630 Public Hearing PPLK HRNK P142 H520 closed ph KLST C423 mot to approve both MOA JB and 2nd BW MT APRF P0 ANT NT M300 A160 B300 A530 N300 Reports RPRTS R163 Rebecca Rowe of Cape Shores spoke regarding trees, maritime oaks that have survived tropical storms and hurricanes; concerned about plans to remove old oaks for new development Eric Braga spoke regarding Cape Shores concerns and proposed development to Cape Shores and possible pollution, crime, etc...this would bring to the area; a tenth gas station is not needed; oppose the 16 pumps and gathering signatures for petition Jay Petty resident of Cape Canaveral and owner at Cape Shores spoke of concerns regarding water flow at the lagoon and environmental concern Mayor explained the process going forward with the Cumberland Farms development Mr. Petty requested explanation of "compatability" issue Gary S explained why trees are marked for site plan RPK KP XRS SPK RKRTNK TRS MRTM AKS 0T HF SRFFT TRPKL STRMS ANT HRKNS KNSRNT APT PLNS RMF ALT FR TFLPMN ARK PRK KNSRNS PRPST PSPL PLXN KRM ATK 0S PRNK AR TN0 KS STXN NT NTT APS PMPS K0RNK SNTRS PTXN PT RSTNT KNFRL ANR ATR FL LKN ANFRNM KNSRN MR AKSPLN PRSS KNK FRRT A0 KMRLNT FRMS RKSTT KMPTPL AS KR MRKT ST PLN R120 C100 S200 S120 R263 T620 M635 O220 T300 H100 S611 T612 S365 A530 H652 C526 A130 P452 R510 O430 F600 D141 E620 B620 P612 P214 P450 C650 E320 T200 W430 B652 A600 T530 G200 S335 N300 O100 P520 G352 S536 P335 P300 R235 C516 O600 W360 F400 L250 E516 M600 E214 P622 G520 F663 W300 C564 F652 R223 C513 I200 G600 M623 S300 mini version of the State of the Port MN FRSN STT PRT M500 V625 S330 P630 mot bp bh 2nd MT NT M300 N300 Mayor requested CA to read the title of the Ord. Mayor explained how long Staff has been working on the Sign Ordinance; mentioned pylon and electronic signs; snipe signs; turned over to Council on how to handle MR RKSTT RT TTL ART AKSPLN LNK STF HS PN ARKNK SN ARTNNS MNXNT PLN ANT ALKTRN SNS SNP TRNT AFR KNSL HNTL M600 R223 R300 T340 O630 E214 L520 S310 H200 B500 W625 S500 O635 M533 P450 A530 E423 S520 S510 T653 O160 C524 H534 Council Member Bond asked questions request from J. Bond to place limited max size of electronic sign sea turtles and signs hand held signs and how close to the lane of traffic can they be?; CA responded he would have to look at the code to see that it already exists regarding to safety and distraction; CA explained some cities are trying to address the people holding signs for businesses; portable signs/temporary signs - TM said no minimums on appearance what constitutes signage? - is a towel a sign? - TM read the definition from the code KNSL MMPR PNT ASKT KSXNS RKST FRM PLS LMTT MKS SS ALKTRN SN TRTLS ANT SNS HNT HLT KLS LN TRFK KN RSPNTT ALT HF LK KT 0T ALRT AKSSTS RKRTNK SFT TSTRKX AKSPLN SM STS AR TRNK ATRS PPL HLTNK FR PSNSS PRTPL TMPRR ST MNMMS APRNS AT KNSTTT SNJ TL RT TFNXN C524 M560 B530 A230 Q235 R223 F650 P420 L533 M200 S200 E423 S500 T634 A530 S520 H530 H430 C420 L500 T612 C500 R215 W430 H100 L200 C300 T300 A460 E223 R263 S130 D236 E214 C320 A600 T652 A362 P140 H435 F600 B252 P631 T516 S300 M555 A150 W300 C523 T400 R300 D153 maximum foot for signage in 2009? TM explained how the Code came to 20ft for electronic signs MKSMM FT FR SNJ AKSPLN KT KM ALKTRN SNS M255 F300 F600 S520 E214 C300 C500 E423 commended Staff on the sign code ordinance asked to expound on window signage CM stated he was certain it would come up during the Public Hearing portion KMNTT STF SN KT ARTNNS ASKT AKSPNT ANT SNJ STTT AS SRTN ALT KM TRNK PPLK HRNK PRXN C553 S310 S500 C300 O635 A230 E215 W530 S520 S333 W200 C635 W430 C500 D652 P142 H520 P635 Attorney Kim Rezanka addressed the Council representing Xtreme Fun, LLC spoke how a towel or surf board is a sign and is still in question still ambiguaties and confusion on definition of sign overlay district "unless permitted in window or display area" so many definitions of signs and wall signs would like to clear up between now and second reading ATRN KM RSNK ATRST KNSL RPRSNT STRM FN LK SPK TL SRF PRT SN ANT STL KSXN AMPKTS KNFSN TFNXN AFRL TSTRKT ANLS PRMTT TSPL AR MN TFNXNS SNS AL ALT KLR PTN SKNT RTNK A365 K500 R252 A362 C524 R162 X365 F500 L200 S120 T400 S610 B630 S500 A530 S340 Q235 A522 C512 D153 O164 D236 U542 P653 W530 D214 A600 M500 S520 W400 W430 C460 B350 S253 R520 and will sit down with Ms. Rezanka and client before now and second reading CM suggested to go on with the Public Hearing and will address individual issues raised.. ANT AL ST TN A0 RSNK KLNT PFR SKNT RTNK SKSTT PPLK HRNK ATRS ANTFTL ASS RST A530 W400 S300 D500 W300 R252 C453 B160 S253 R520 S223 P142 H520 A362 I531 I220 R300 asked about political signs and not being removed after elections Mayor explained they have to be remove within 5 days after the elections ASKT APT PLTKL SNS ANT NT PNK RMFT AFTR ALKXNS MR AKSPLN HF RMF A0N TS A230 A130 P432 S520 A530 N300 B520 R513 A136 E423 M600 E214 H100 R510 W350 D200 on first reading likely be tech changes between 1st and 2nd hearing; with respect to issue raised by Atty Rezanka and window signange and inner relationship with the existing sign code, in district - window transparancy, there are general rules that apply re window signs - city has permitted __________ for years - her client has had window signs and displays for sometime - under current code it is cumbersome to add up area of window sign currently on the books; under district regs the visable attractiveness is encouraged, looked at provision and wrote was is being proposed on page 18 of the Code - rationale 3ft wide 15ft height, business would be ab le to display with two caveats could not attachd___________ #2 would not be able to block the v iew inside the building for security reason for exampe the cash register and law enforcement - intended to be a flexibility within that defifned space Now the def of sign has always intended to be broad - intended to attract people, visible from right of ways, etc.. - not an issue if in the display area Council discussion ensued and included figure out how far back from the window the display has to be to not violate - CA responded if its not attached the 25% rule does not come in to play the way it is currently drafted; find common ground but the current code encourages window display the way towels are displayed CA - enforcement would be difficult how far away from window was discussed 25% cannot be attached to glass CM further explained how this Ord came in to - reasonable compromises made with bus. owner CA would be happty to talk to Atty Rezanka and staff to make tech CM would show up in agenda sheet to show full transparancy and disclosure FRST RTNK LKL TK XNJS PTN ST ANT NT HRNK A0 RSPKT AS RST AT RSNK SNNJ ANR RLXNXP AKSSTN SN KT TSTRKT TRNSPR 0R AR JNRL RLS 0T APL SNS HS PRMTT FR ARS HR KLNT HT TSPLS SMTM ANTR KRNT KMRSM KRNTL PKS RKS FSPL ATRKTF ANKRJT LKT PRFSN RT PNK PRPST PJ RXNL FT PSNS ALT TSPL KFTS KLT ATKT PLK ANST PLTNK SKRT RSN AKSMP KX RJSTR ANFRSM ANTNTT FLKSPL A0N TFFNT SPS TF ALS PRT ATRKT PPL FRM ATK KNSL TSKSN ANKLTT FKR PK FLT RSPNTT ATS ATXT RL TS KM PL TRFTT FNT KMN PT ANKRJS TLS TSPLT TFKLT TSKST KNT KLS FR0R AKSPLN 0S ART RSNPL KMPRMS MT PS HPT TLK STF MK AJNT XT FL TSKSR F623 R520 L240 T200 C522 B350 S300 A530 N300 H520 W300 R212 I200 R300 A300 R252 W530 S552 I560 R435 E223 S500 C300 D236 T652 A600 G564 R420 T300 A140 S520 H200 P653 F600 Y620 H600 C453 H300 D214 S535 U536 C653 C562 B220 R200 V214 A362 E522 L300 P612 W630 W200 B520 P200 R340 F300 B252 W430 C132 C430 A330 B420 I523 B435 S263 R500 E251 C200 R223 E516 I535 F421 W350 D115 S120 D100 A420 B630 P140 F650 E320 C524 D225 E523 I524 F260 O300 B200 V300 R215 I320 R400 D200 C500 P400 D613 F530 C550 G653 B300 T420 D143 D223 C530 G420 F636 E214 O630 R510 C516 M300 O600 H130 S310 M200 A253 F400 D246 CA read the title; CA said a statewide ref coming up in the State of Fl in nove, if passes by 60% the State will be enacting the sale or marijuana at medical dist site; some communities trying to get out in front before nov, chosed to adopt contingent zoning codes and operational requirements; this City's Ord would be contingent upon the passing of the refernendum - somewhat related issue to pain management clinics. RT TTL ST STTT RF KMNK STT NF PSS AL ANKTNK SL MRJN MTKL TST SM KMNTS TRNK KT AT FRNT PFR XST ATPT KNTNJN SNNK KTS ANT APRXNL RKRMNT 0S ART ALT APN PSNK RFRNNT SMT RLTT AS PN MNJMNT KLNKS R300 T340 S300 S330 R100 C552 N100 P220 W400 E523 S400 M620 M324 D230 S500 C553 T652 G300 O300 F653 B160 C300 A313 C535 Z552 C320 A530 O163 R255 T200 O630 W430 U150 P252 R165 S530 R433 I200 P500 M525 C452 about the Medical Mar amendment and tonight's ordinance APT MTKL MR AMNTMN ANT TNT ARTNNS A130 M324 M600 A553 A530 T530 O635 Jay Petty asked if the City has to provide if the State referendum passes? CA responded if it is inserted into the State Constit - would make it very difficult for City to prohibit - many issues related and cited Federal law why is it not prescribed by a doctor already if its for medical purposes? CA encouraged researching the issue; revenue source Eric Braga - with these ordinances certain footage away from schools; yes ...locations in CA were in proximity of elementary schools PT ASKT ST HS PRFT STT RFRNTM PSS RSPNTT ANSRTT ANT KNSTT ALT MK FR TFKLT PRHPT MN ASS RLTT FTRL NT PRSKPT TKTR ALRT ATS MTKL PRPSS ANKRJT RSRXNK AS RFN SRS ARK PRK A0 0S ARTNNS SRTN FTJ FRM SKLS LKXNS AR PRKSMT ALMNTR P300 A230 C300 H200 P613 S330 R165 P220 R215 I526 I530 C523 W430 M200 V600 D143 F600 P630 M500 I220 R433 A530 C330 F364 N300 P626 D236 A460 I320 M324 P612 E522 R262 I200 R150 S620 E620 B620 W300 O635 C635 F200 F650 S420 Y200 L235 W600 P625 E455 regarding the Ord. details and prohibited items RKRTNK ART TTLS ANT PRHPTT ATMS R263 O630 D342 A530 P630 I352 has lived in CC for 25 years limitation of how many can be in the City? Mayor said with the size of the City it would be limited. HS LFT FR ARS LMTXN MN KN ST MR A0 SS ALT LMTT H200 L130 F600 Y620 L533 M500 C500 C300 M600 S300 W300 S200 W430 Council input: discussion ensued and included the fact that the city onbly a l; requirement #3 - please add places of worship Dave Dicky gave insight - issue came up at the P&Z meeting last month; Asst. CA was uncomfortable with included becasue of sep of Church & State issue. CM - if church had daycare than the prohibition would come into play BH again wanted to add the language to include places of worship CA - will go back and look at the issue between now and 2nd reading; Courts don't really delve into the definition of place of worship - Add to ord now or later and put in at 2nd reading CA - would modify the section and insert terminology consistently BP - assumed Churches were in there and supports putting language in there BW - why isn't it more than 1000 ft? CA - responded other Cities are much larger than CC and thought this was reasonable bounds BW - food produced - add food products to line item - page 3 under def 110-1 CA - language taken right out of proposed constitutional amendment; if this passes Council will likely be revisiting the issue again BW - permitted conditional use vs special exception CA - historical nomenclature - more modern is conditional use JB - believes certain amont of people need the med marj; having said that he sees huge problems if the amendment passes; websites out there regarding how to teach people to doctor shop and pass themselves off as needing the marijuana when they really don't; doing everything they can to turn us into Colorado; Can we prevent any growhouses? DD - P&Z discussed this too; language in Const. Amend would preclude; my understanding on a very large industrial/corporate scale JB - introduced the Major - suspicious prescriptions Major - currently dealing with that now Mayor - scanned CB ordinance and its mention of the CRA area CA - the issue cannot be an effective preclusion of that use - effective preclusion is unlawful, defers to the Planning Dept to avoid that BW - Sat hours - change to 9-noon on Saturdays? CM - Council can do that; try to objectively deal in a fair and balanced way and that's what drives what we present to you all - can do that - from overall point of view trying to push the env as reasonably far to the edge as we feel comfortable and beyond that may be unnecessary risk - Consensus to change to Noon. KNSL ANPT TSKSN ANST ANT ANKLTT FKT 0T ST ANPL RKRMNT PLS AT PLSS ARXP TF TK KF AS KM MTNK LST MN0 AST ANKMFR A0 PKS SP XRX STT HT TKR 0N PRHPXN ALT PL AKN ANTT LNKJ ANKLT AL PK LK PTN NT RTNK KRTS TN RL TLF TFNXN ART LTR PT MTF SKXN ANSRT TRMNLJ KNSSTN ASMT XRXS AR 0R SPRTS PTNK ASN MR RSPNTT A0R STS MK LRKR 0S RSNPL PNTS FT PRTST PRTKTS LN ATM PJ ANTR TKN RT PRPST KNSTTX AMNTMN PSS LKL RFSTNK PRMTT KNTXNL SPSL AKSPXN HSTRKL NMNKLT MTRN PLFS SRTN AMNT PPL MT MRJ HFNK SS HJ PRPLMS APSTS RKRTNK TKTR XP PS 0MSLFS AF NTNK MRJN AN TNK AFR0NK KN TRN KLRT PRFNT KRSS TSKST KNST PRKLT ANTRST FR LRJ ANTSTR KRPRT SKL ANTRTS MJR SSPSS PRSKPX KRNTL TLNK SKNT ARTNNS ATS MNXN KR KNT AFKTF PRKLSN ANLFL TFRS PLNNK TPT AFT HRS XNJ NN STRTS TR APJKTF TL PLNST TRFS PRSNT FRM AFRL PNT TRNK PX ANF AJ FL KMFRTP ANSSR RSK KNSNSS C524 I513 D225 E523 A530 I524 F230 T300 C300 O514 R255 P400 A300 P422 W621 D100 D200 G100 I523 I200 C500 M520 L230 M530 A230 W200 U525 W300 B220 S100 C620 S330 H300 D600 T500 P650 W430 I530 A250 W533 L520 W400 B200 L200 B350 N300 R520 C632 D500 R440 D410 D153 P420 O630 L360 P300 M310 S235 I526 T655 C522 C622 W600 S163 P352 I250 M600 R215 O360 C320 A600 M200 L626 T200 R510 B532 F300 P632 L500 I350 P200 U536 T250 R300 O300 P612 C523 A553 P220 L240 R123 P653 C533 U200 S124 E213 H236 N552 M365 B420 C635 P140 M300 M620 H152 S300 S200 H200 P614 W123 R263 D236 T524 O100 N520 W500 D520 E163 T650 C463 P615 A500 G620 D223 P624 V600 L620 I532 C616 I536 M260 S212 P626 C653 S553 O635 I320 M535 C600 C530 E123 U544 D162 P455 D130 A130 H620 C520 N500 S363 T600 O122 D400 F600 B452 D612 P625 A400 F650 O164 P530 T652 E510 E200 F400 C516 B530 U526 R200 C525 should fall under same hours as doctors hours monday-friday. nothing on Sat or half a day on Sat BH - will be an establishment that specifally deals XLT FL ANTR SM HRS TKTRS MNT FRT N0NK ST HLF AL ASTPLX 0T SPSFL TLS S430 F400 U536 S500 H620 D236 M530 F630 N352 S300 H410 W400 E231 T300 S121 D420 guidelines for the City's until after the Nov election why not be more strict now and change it later KTLNS FR ST ANTL AFTR NF ALKXN NT MR STRKT ANT XNJ LTR G452 F600 C300 U534 A136 N100 E423 N300 M600 S362 A530 C520 L360 add church and change hours AT XRX ANT XNJ HRS A300 C620 A530 C520 H620 CA read title into the record; there is history regarding the 20ft strip - the MOA property owner has signed the MOa to take title to the strip if Council approves Ord. Mayor explained the history about how City used to give land away without an Ord. and explained History of the the item. RT TTL ANT RKRT 0R HSTR RKRTNK FT STRP PRPRT ANR HS SNT TK KNSL APRFS ART MR AKSPLN APT ST AST JF LNT A0T ATM R300 T340 I530 R263 H236 F300 S361 P616 O600 H200 S530 T200 C524 A162 O630 M600 E214 A130 C300 U230 G100 L530 W330 A530 I350 passed 5-0 PST P230 JB - thanks for work from CM and Staff for enormous amounts of hours esp Sign Code BW - spoken to people not getting feedback from people who have put in applications for Boards - CM shall be done. BP - spoke about Cape View and students above; Cocoa Beach students; BH - pass RR - complimented Gustavo Vergara regarding 11 Weeks of Summer Camp with no problems. 0NKS FR ARK FRM ANT STF ANRMS AMNTS HRS ASP SN KT SPKN PPL NT KTNK FTPK HF PT APLKXN PRTS XL TN SPK APT KP STTNTS APF KK PK PS KMPLMN KSTF FRKR RKRTNK AKS SMR KMP A0 PRPLMS T522 F600 W620 F650 A530 S310 E565 A553 H620 E210 S500 C300 S125 P140 N300 G352 F312 H100 P300 A143 B632 S440 D500 S120 A130 C100 S335 A110 C200 P200 C514 G231 V626 R263 W220 S560 C510 W300 P614 20140819